WTB: Frankfurt Stereo, Period correct for my 73 2.0 Options

[SRS914]

Looking for a period correct stereo for my 73 2.0 including a basket weave faceplate. Tired of looking at my 90’s CD player!

[sithot]

Looking for a period correct stereo for my 73 2.0 including a basket weave faceplate. Tired of looking at my 90’s CD player!

Try these:

http://www.oldautoradio.com

http://www.vintageblau.com

[Mike Fitton]

If it doesn't have to be a Blaupunkt here is a period correct Motorola Sapphire: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/det....php?id=2209384

Then buy this faceplate: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Origin...33;-1:rk:6:pf:0

[SRS914]

Thank you guys!

[914Sixer]

Samba radio is a mono.

[SRS914]

Samba radio is a mono.

You are right Mark. Also says 74. Not sure how to tell the right year for these radios as I don't see a year printed on them.

[Mike Fitton]

Samba radio is a mono.

You are right Mark. Also says 74. Not sure how to tell the right year for these radios as I don't see a year printed on them.

Here put yourself to sleep:

Sapphire I's first came out in 1960. There are actually 7 different models of Sapphire I's (and 3 models of Sapphire II's), depending on year and manufacturer, but there are only 2 main styles, 1960-61 and 1962-65. For the purist, there are minor differences in all of them. For example 1960-61 and 1962-63 models have ivory knobs and pushbuttons while 1964-65 radios have grey knobs and pushbuttons. Models 1960-1964 have Conelrad Civil Defence markings on the dials, later ones do not.

There is no difference in the actual radio between bug, bus, or Ghia. Usually there were differences in knobs, faceplates, bezels, speakers, and antennas. 1960-67 models will pretty much fit anything back to 58 if you have the proper faceplate. Ghias from 1962-66 used the same dash bezel that was used on buses. 1960-61 models included the bus/Ghia bezel as part of the radio, and these radios will also fit in oval dashes (and look quite nice).

All 1960 to 63 I's say Sapphire I by Bendix because they were only made by Bendix in those years. For 1964-65 they just say Sapphire I because both Bendix and Motorola made Sapphire I's in 1964.

AM-FM Sapphire II's & IV's & VI's were made by Bendix. Yes, they are mono only, but they do include a fader control for a rear speaker. AM-FM-MPX (stereo) wasn't available until the Sapphire XVI in 1971. 8 track units in 1967 and later were true stereo, but were never AM-FM, just AM and 8 track. Wow, I was probably really impressed with that in 1967.

Since radios were almost always dealer installed, it is quite normal to find cars where the original radio is a different year than the car. I.E. 1964 radios in 1965 cars, 1965 radios in 1966 cars, etc. The dealers were just using up their existing stock. And later owners put in whatever they had or could get.

Up to 1969 you can usually tell the year by the first digit of the model number - 0B is 1960, 1B is 1961, 2BG is 1962, etc. If it includes a B in the model number (like 0B) it was made by Bendix, if it includes an M (like 4TMV) it was made by Motorola. There is one exception to that rule where Bendix made a Sapphire II in 1965 with both a B and an M in the model (5FMBV). The model numbers are usually stamped into the left side of the case.

Sapphire I AM 6 volt (7 models) 1960-65
Sapphire II AM-FM 6 volt (3 models) 1962-65
Sapphire III AM 6 volt (2 models) 1966
Sapphire IV AM-FM 6 volt 1966
Sapphire V AM 12 volt (3 models) 1967
Sapphire VI AM-FM 12 volt 1967
Sapphire VII AM 6 or 12 volt 1969 (yes, 1969, not 1967) And why 6V or 12V in 1969?? Wierd ugly radio.
Sapphire VIII AM-8 track 12 volt 1967
Sapphire IX AM 12 volt (3 models) 1968-69 (including one that looks exactly like a 1967 Sapphire V, but the tag on the dial does say Sapphire IX - I think Motorola was using up their excess inventory V's - that one was only used in 1968 Type 3's)
Sapphire Playtape I & II 1968
Sapphire X AM-FM 12 volt 1968
Sapphire XI AM 12 volt (2 models) 1970
Sapphire XII AM-FM 12 volt 1970
Sapphire XIII AM 12 volt 1969 (yes 1969, not 70 or 71)
Sapphire XIV AM-FM 12 volt (2 models) 1971-72
Sapphire XV AM 12 volt (4 models) 1971
Sapphire XVI AM-FM-MPX (stereo) 12 volt (2 models) 1971
Sapphire XVII AM-8 track 12 volt 1971
Sapphire XVIII AM 12 volt (3 models) 1973-74
Sapphire XIX AM-FM 12 volt (2 models) 1972-75
Sapphire XX AM-FM-MPX (stereo) 12 volt 1972
Sapphire XXI AM-8 track 12 volt (4 models) 1973-74

After 1973 most radios did not carry a Sapphire designation, and the same radios were used in VW, Audi, & Porsche, with different knobs & faceplates.

[914Sixer]

Mike's information is correct. Information needs to be moved to classic section for safe keeping.

[SRS914]

Excellent information!

[Mike Fitton]

Looking for my Blaupunkt info now!

[Mike Fitton]

Link to Blaupunkt Frankfurt models, just type in the top search box Blaupunkt Frankfurt:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/

[Mike Fitton]

Here is a good one over on Pelican:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...1973-radio.html

[914Next]

Looking for a period correct stereo for my 73 2.0 including a basket weave faceplate. Tired of looking at my 90’s CD player!

Try these:

http://www.oldautoradio.com

http://www.vintageblau.com

I think I have a nos basket weave faceplate for the blaupunkt if you need one

[DRPHIL914]

Looking for a period correct stereo for my 73 2.0 including a basket weave faceplate. Tired of looking at my 90’s CD player!

I recently installed this radio , from 914sixer(Mark H) . its stereo, has balance adjustment, tone, etc and great sound if restored. parts etc are getting pretty pricey but I have to say this is great and just looks right. Sound is better than the Alpine I took out that was installed by a PO.

Phil
- looks like this-

[SRS914]

Looking for a period correct stereo for my 73 2.0 including a basket weave faceplate. Tired of looking at my 90’s CD player!

I recently installed this radio , from 914sixer(Mark H) . its stereo, has balance adjustment, tone, etc and great sound if restored. parts etc are getting pretty pricey but I have to say this is great and just looks right. Sound is better than the Alpine I took out that was installed by a PO.

Phil
- looks like this-

Looks great Phil!

[SRS914]

Thanks to a great bunch of guys with common interests a and a sense of comraderie I was able to peice together exactly what I was looking for. Appreciate the help! Especially 914sixer(Mark Heard) and Mike Fitton.pr

[914Sixer]

Looking good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)