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> Has anyone else experienced trouble, with new windshield trim clips breaking?
ChrisFoley
post Nov 1 2018, 02:10 PM
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We have to remove a brand new windshield to replace all the New trim clips made by a popular vendor. They're so brittle they all break as soon as you try to install the trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
More than 3 hours of labor generated by using substandard parts. Seems unfair to charge my customer and I'm not happy about eating that either, except that I'm the one who recommended the vendor. Never again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Buyer beware. I'm going back to Genuine Porsche.
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post Nov 1 2018, 02:20 PM
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the factory trim clips are the only answer, we have found that in this situation, having to remove the windshield to replace the clips, it is best to use the highest quality possible. ONLY the factory clips will do


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We have to remove a brand new windshield to replace all the New trim clips made by a popular vendor. They're so brittle they all break as soon as you try to install the trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
More than 3 hours of labor generated by using substandard parts. Seems unfair to charge my customer and I'm not happy about eating that either, except that I'm the one who recommended the vendor. Never again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Buyer beware. I'm going back to Genuine Porsche.
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post Nov 1 2018, 03:02 PM
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I also have had many trim clips break from a popular vendor here.
So I'm pulling the windshield to replace the broken clips.
With what I'm hearing, I'll be replacing all 19 of the clips from the popular vender with Porsche factory parts.

I agree.
It's a complete waste of time and money to have to yank the windshield, clean up and replace the brand new butyl that just went in, get more clips, and get the windshield back in the car.
What a bunch of krappola!

I don't want to pull the entire windshield again to replace any more broken clips.
Gads!!!!
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post Nov 1 2018, 03:25 PM
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I broke one when trying to drive it in. Rest seemed OK. I don't have the windshield in yet. Wonder if my clips are from the same popular vendor?
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:22 PM
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If the vendor is one that is responsive to customer feedback, perhaps you could contact them and see what you can work out with them?

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post Nov 1 2018, 06:11 PM
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I had the same issue but someone told me to test fit the trim before installing the glass. To fix the issues I shimmed the clips with about 1/16” and they did not break.
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post Nov 1 2018, 06:30 PM
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That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X.
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post Nov 1 2018, 07:37 PM
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This is concerning.
How are the aftermarket parts breaking? Is it that the plastic pin snaps, or is the entire piece breaking?
I’m very wary about this, because I’m about to do my first windshield job.

Earlier I lost one of the new clips, took and old one and installed it with a pop-rivet.


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post Nov 1 2018, 07:53 PM
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The clip itself is breaking.

And having to shim these clips so they don't break.....well that's a bunch of Mr. Ed doo doo.
If you can't make a part that functions correctly, why waste the time.
Poor QC if you ask me.
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post Nov 1 2018, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 1 2018, 05:30 PM) *

That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X.


You can say that again Mark.
It was a pain to 1st pull the windshield without breaking it and then cleaning up all the old butyl primer and butyl itself off both the windshield and the pinch weld area.
I was not a happy camper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Nov 2 2018, 07:49 AM
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@raynekat could this be caused by using the wrong size butyl-cord?
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post Nov 2 2018, 07:54 AM
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While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be helpful to know who to avoid regarding this part.
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post Nov 2 2018, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Nov 2 2018, 09:54 AM) *

While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be helpful to know who to avoid regarding this part.

I recommend following this advice:

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the factory trim clips are the only answer, we have found that in this situation, having to remove the windshield to replace the clips, it is best to use the highest quality possible. ONLY the factory clips will do
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post Nov 2 2018, 08:15 AM
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It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it's a Porsche dealer parts department purchase only?
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post Nov 2 2018, 08:19 AM
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The factory clips are a bit flexible to allow for the chrome to snap home. They have to be able to flex back and forth for this to happen. There are often many products not made in the right consistency or materials that look great but just do not work in the application.
We are happy that the factory still makes the clips and always stock several hundred for fear of them discontinuing them !!!!!
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Nov 2 2018, 09:15 AM) *

It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it's a Porsche dealer parts department purchase only?

I ordered some from Pelican last night. Said they had 29 in stock. Only 10 left now...
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post Nov 2 2018, 09:17 AM
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Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensive of the 2 offered is numbered 914-541-921-11 M260 and listed O.E.M. with a German flag in the ad for $2.

Next is 914-541-921-11-OEM @$3.25. Listed as 'PORSCHE Genuine Parts'.

While seeming to be the same offering other than the cost, the discription reads slightly different.
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post Nov 2 2018, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Nov 2 2018, 09:17 AM) *

Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensive of the 2 offered is numbered 914-541-921-11 M260 and listed O.E.M. with a German flag in the ad for $2.

Next is 914-541-921-11-OEM @$3.25. Listed as 'PORSCHE Genuine Parts'.

While seeming to be the same offering other than the cost, the discription reads slightly different.


The O.E.M. with the flag is a brand name and I think very deceptive. I fell for that one. The part I got was fine, but not actually original equipment manufacturer that I thought I was getting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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O.E.M. vs OEM. The portion that presses in is off center to the rectangular piece. The rectangular piece has a taper on one long side. Should the taper be on the inside edge of the frame? I can see where if the offset is set wrong it might stress the part putting the trim on.
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post Nov 2 2018, 11:05 AM
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Odd question but what temp is it there when these broke?
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