Has anyone else experienced trouble, with new windshield trim clips breaking? |
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Has anyone else experienced trouble, with new windshield trim clips breaking? |
ChrisFoley |
Nov 1 2018, 02:10 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,908 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
We have to remove a brand new windshield to replace all the New trim clips made by a popular vendor. They're so brittle they all break as soon as you try to install the trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
More than 3 hours of labor generated by using substandard parts. Seems unfair to charge my customer and I'm not happy about eating that either, except that I'm the one who recommended the vendor. Never again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Buyer beware. I'm going back to Genuine Porsche. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 1 2018, 02:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,811 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
the factory trim clips are the only answer, we have found that in this situation, having to remove the windshield to replace the clips, it is best to use the highest quality possible. ONLY the factory clips will do
We have to remove a brand new windshield to replace all the New trim clips made by a popular vendor. They're so brittle they all break as soon as you try to install the trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) More than 3 hours of labor generated by using substandard parts. Seems unfair to charge my customer and I'm not happy about eating that either, except that I'm the one who recommended the vendor. Never again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Buyer beware. I'm going back to Genuine Porsche. |
raynekat |
Nov 1 2018, 03:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,153 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I also have had many trim clips break from a popular vendor here.
So I'm pulling the windshield to replace the broken clips. With what I'm hearing, I'll be replacing all 19 of the clips from the popular vender with Porsche factory parts. I agree. It's a complete waste of time and money to have to yank the windshield, clean up and replace the brand new butyl that just went in, get more clips, and get the windshield back in the car. What a bunch of krappola! I don't want to pull the entire windshield again to replace any more broken clips. Gads!!!! |
Shadowfax |
Nov 1 2018, 03:25 PM
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Show us the meaning of haste Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 19-January 15 Member No.: 18,340 Region Association: South East States |
I broke one when trying to drive it in. Rest seemed OK. I don't have the windshield in yet. Wonder if my clips are from the same popular vendor?
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Dave_Darling |
Nov 1 2018, 05:22 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
If the vendor is one that is responsive to customer feedback, perhaps you could contact them and see what you can work out with them?
--DD |
michael7810 |
Nov 1 2018, 06:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,078 Joined: 6-June 11 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 13,164 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I had the same issue but someone told me to test fit the trim before installing the glass. To fix the issues I shimmed the clips with about 1/16” and they did not break.
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mepstein |
Nov 1 2018, 06:30 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,224 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X.
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HansJan |
Nov 1 2018, 07:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 5-April 16 From: Sugar Land TX Member No.: 19,860 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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raynekat |
Nov 1 2018, 07:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,153 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The clip itself is breaking.
And having to shim these clips so they don't break.....well that's a bunch of Mr. Ed doo doo. If you can't make a part that functions correctly, why waste the time. Poor QC if you ask me. |
raynekat |
Nov 1 2018, 07:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,153 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X. You can say that again Mark. It was a pain to 1st pull the windshield without breaking it and then cleaning up all the old butyl primer and butyl itself off both the windshield and the pinch weld area. I was not a happy camper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
HansJan |
Nov 2 2018, 07:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 5-April 16 From: Sugar Land TX Member No.: 19,860 Region Association: Southwest Region |
@raynekat could this be caused by using the wrong size butyl-cord?
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rhodyguy |
Nov 2 2018, 07:54 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be helpful to know who to avoid regarding this part.
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ChrisFoley |
Nov 2 2018, 08:08 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,908 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be helpful to know who to avoid regarding this part. I recommend following this advice: QUOTE the factory trim clips are the only answer, we have found that in this situation, having to remove the windshield to replace the clips, it is best to use the highest quality possible. ONLY the factory clips will do |
rhodyguy |
Nov 2 2018, 08:15 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it's a Porsche dealer parts department purchase only?
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 2 2018, 08:19 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,811 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
The factory clips are a bit flexible to allow for the chrome to snap home. They have to be able to flex back and forth for this to happen. There are often many products not made in the right consistency or materials that look great but just do not work in the application.
We are happy that the factory still makes the clips and always stock several hundred for fear of them discontinuing them !!!!! |
Shadowfax |
Nov 2 2018, 08:26 AM
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Show us the meaning of haste Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 19-January 15 Member No.: 18,340 Region Association: South East States |
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rhodyguy |
Nov 2 2018, 09:17 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensive of the 2 offered is numbered 914-541-921-11 M260 and listed O.E.M. with a German flag in the ad for $2.
Next is 914-541-921-11-OEM @$3.25. Listed as 'PORSCHE Genuine Parts'. While seeming to be the same offering other than the cost, the discription reads slightly different. |
bbrock |
Nov 2 2018, 09:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensive of the 2 offered is numbered 914-541-921-11 M260 and listed O.E.M. with a German flag in the ad for $2. Next is 914-541-921-11-OEM @$3.25. Listed as 'PORSCHE Genuine Parts'. While seeming to be the same offering other than the cost, the discription reads slightly different. The O.E.M. with the flag is a brand name and I think very deceptive. I fell for that one. The part I got was fine, but not actually original equipment manufacturer that I thought I was getting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Nov 2 2018, 10:13 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
O.E.M. vs OEM. The portion that presses in is off center to the rectangular piece. The rectangular piece has a taper on one long side. Should the taper be on the inside edge of the frame? I can see where if the offset is set wrong it might stress the part putting the trim on.
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Chi-town |
Nov 2 2018, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
Odd question but what temp is it there when these broke?
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