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> Has anyone else experienced trouble, with new windshield trim clips breaking?
ChrisFoley
post Nov 1 2018, 02:10 PM
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We have to remove a brand new windshield to replace all the New trim clips made by a popular vendor. They're so brittle they all break as soon as you try to install the trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
More than 3 hours of labor generated by using substandard parts. Seems unfair to charge my customer and I'm not happy about eating that either, except that I'm the one who recommended the vendor. Never again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Buyer beware. I'm going back to Genuine Porsche.
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post Nov 13 2018, 11:01 AM
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OK....round 3 for the windshield install.

This time I used the Porsche factory clips and 5/16" butyl.
Windshield went in like a breeze (guess practice makes perfect).
Using the smaller butyl cord vs the 3/8" I mistakenly used last time, the windshield sat down into the opening much lower.
It looked promising for getting the windshield trim properly snapped in this time.

I put the lower trim in 1st with the two corners attached.
All the trim clips had a nice positive snap as the trim snapped into place.
Next I went with the 2 sidepieces.
These all go in as one unit with the center piece holding them together at the top of the windshield.
Along the top of the windshield....those all snapped in easily.
It was the sides that are the challenge still.
Especially the first clip up from the lower corners.
The corner pieces hold the trim far enough away from those 1st clips up the sides that it's tough to get those to snap in.
I eventually chose to gently bend the trim in those locations such that they could more easily get into the clips.
Then it was snap, snap, snap up both side and I was done.

Zero of the factory trim clips broke.
That's one data point for ya.

My only issue is the small corner pieces don't really wrap around the trim enough.
It's easy to flatten out the little bend that's supposed to hold them onto the trim.
Same with the top center connector.
A nice re-design would be to add more material to where these small connector pieces wrap around the actual trim.

Take away from all of this.
This is not a trivial project.
It takes a lot of planning and be prepared to re-do it....unless you get extremely lucky.
Pre-install the windshield without the butyl a few times to understand where it sits amongst the clips.
Understand how high your windshield will sit depending on the size of butyl you plan to use.
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post Nov 13 2018, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 13 2018, 12:01 PM) *

OK....round 3 for the windshield install.

This time I used the Porsche factory clips and 5/16" butyl.
Windshield went in like a breeze (guess practice makes perfect).
Using the smaller butyl cord vs the 3/8" I mistakenly used last time, the windshield sat down into the opening much lower.
It looked promising for getting the windshield trim properly snapped in this time.

I put the lower trim in 1st with the two corners attached.
All the trim clips had a nice positive snap as the trim snapped into place.
Next I went with the 2 sidepieces.
These all go in as one unit with the center piece holding them together at the top of the windshield.
Along the top of the windshield....those all snapped in easily.
It was the sides that are the challenge still.
Especially the first clip up from the lower corners.
The corner pieces hold the trim far enough away from those 1st clips up the sides that it's tough to get those to snap in.
I eventually chose to gently bend the trim in those locations such that they could more easily get into the clips.
Then it was snap, snap, snap up both side and I was done.

Zero of the factory trim clips broke.
That's one data point for ya.

My only issue is the small corner pieces don't really wrap around the trim enough.
It's easy to flatten out the little bend that's supposed to hold them onto the trim.
Same with the top center connector.
A nice re-design would be to add more material to where these small connector pieces wrap around the actual trim.

Take away from all of this.
This is not a trivial project.
It takes a lot of planning and be prepared to re-do it....unless you get extremely lucky.
Pre-install the windshield without the butyl a few times to understand where it sits amongst the clips.
Understand how high your windshield will sit depending on the size of butyl you plan to use.

Thanks for posting your results and glad the 3rd time was a charm.
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ChrisFoley   Has anyone else experienced trouble   Nov 1 2018, 02:10 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   the factory trim clips are the only answer, we hav...   Nov 1 2018, 02:20 PM
raynekat   I also have had many trim clips break from a popul...   Nov 1 2018, 03:02 PM
Shadowfax   I broke one when trying to drive it in. Rest seeme...   Nov 1 2018, 03:25 PM
Dave_Darling   If the vendor is one that is responsive to custome...   Nov 1 2018, 05:22 PM
michael7810   I had the same issue but someone told me to test f...   Nov 1 2018, 06:11 PM
mepstein   That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X.   Nov 1 2018, 06:30 PM
raynekat   That sucks. Not a job you want to do 2X. You c...   Nov 1 2018, 07:54 PM
HansJan   This is concerning. How are the aftermarket parts...   Nov 1 2018, 07:37 PM
raynekat   The clip itself is breaking. And having to shim t...   Nov 1 2018, 07:53 PM
HansJan   @raynekat could this be caused by using the wrong...   Nov 2 2018, 07:49 AM
rhodyguy   While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be ...   Nov 2 2018, 07:54 AM
ChrisFoley   While not needing to bash the vendor, it would be...   Nov 2 2018, 08:08 AM
rhodyguy   It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it...   Nov 2 2018, 08:15 AM
Shadowfax   It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it...   Nov 2 2018, 08:26 AM
mepstein   It seems anymore OE and OEM can differ. So it...   Nov 3 2018, 05:51 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   The factory clips are a bit flexible to allow for ...   Nov 2 2018, 08:19 AM
rhodyguy   Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensive...   Nov 2 2018, 09:17 AM
bbrock   Here's an example. Pelican. The less expensiv...   Nov 2 2018, 09:22 AM
rhodyguy   O.E.M. vs OEM. The portion that presses in is off ...   Nov 2 2018, 10:13 AM
Chi-town   Odd question but what temp is it there when these ...   Nov 2 2018, 11:05 AM
raynekat   Odd question but what temp is it there when these...   Nov 2 2018, 02:22 PM
Mikey914   Lets look at the failure mode on the clips. Is it ...   Nov 2 2018, 10:45 PM
raynekat   I can't speak for others, but this is where mi...   Nov 3 2018, 12:40 AM
michael7810   I can't speak for others, but this is where m...   Nov 4 2018, 06:09 AM
jmitro   thanks for posting this concern; I just installed ...   Nov 3 2018, 05:37 AM
Bartlett 914   Maybe something changed along the way. I have had ...   Nov 3 2018, 08:08 AM
76-914   :popcorn:   Nov 3 2018, 08:21 AM
Mikey914   The factory ones to break over time. Many of us ha...   Nov 3 2018, 12:18 PM
buck toenges   I have used Mark's clips and broke a bunch whi...   Nov 4 2018, 11:35 AM
Mikey914   That's why I'm asking. Please do post up p...   Nov 4 2018, 12:17 PM
jsaum   I’ve been in the plastic injection molding indus...   Nov 4 2018, 05:28 PM
davep   Some of things I would look at is the same materi...   Nov 8 2018, 09:05 PM
DRPHIL914   you can check my build thread I brought this up ba...   Nov 4 2018, 05:58 PM
Mikey914   We did do our gating differently. And we do a a pe...   Nov 4 2018, 08:39 PM
jsaum   We did do our gating differently. And we do a a p...   Nov 8 2018, 10:18 PM
jacksun   HI, Would it be possible to change the geometry of...   Nov 5 2018, 04:23 AM
HansJan   HI, Would it be possible to change the geometry o...   Nov 7 2018, 09:46 AM
ChrisFoley   Original ones are still available at Porsche? ...   Nov 7 2018, 10:15 AM
ChrisFoley   Here are two pics of failed parts, typical of what...   Nov 5 2018, 10:20 AM
raynekat   Similar to the failures on mine.... Here are two...   Nov 5 2018, 10:43 AM
rhodyguy   hard to imagine why the failure occurs in that spe...   Nov 5 2018, 10:56 AM
Mikey914   It appears to be a materials issue. It did shear. ...   Nov 5 2018, 11:40 PM
jsaum   It appears to be a materials issue. It did shear....   Nov 8 2018, 10:05 PM
SteveL   I haven't bought or used any of these windshie...   Nov 6 2018, 07:23 AM
Rob-O   I don’t think nylon would be a good choice. Iâ€...   Nov 8 2018, 11:13 PM
jfort   I posted about this issue earlier with regard to s...   Nov 9 2018, 10:22 AM
rhodyguy   The OEM/O.E.M. thing is weird. The clip listing at...   Nov 9 2018, 10:54 AM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='Mikey914' post='2663179' date='Nov 4...   Nov 9 2018, 11:15 AM
Mikey914   We've done some research on these over the las...   Nov 10 2018, 12:36 PM
raynekat   Yes, it makes sense to offer more than the 19 clip...   Nov 10 2018, 02:04 PM
raynekat   OK....round 3 for the windshield install. This ti...   Nov 13 2018, 11:01 AM
mepstein   OK....round 3 for the windshield install. This t...   Nov 13 2018, 11:10 AM


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