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> New 914 owner! Already dreaming of engine swaps..., What would you guys think about a 4A-GE blacktop in a 914?
betz
post Nov 6 2018, 04:07 PM
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A little background: I have 3 cars besides the 914: A stock '00 Boxster, a restored '86 E30 BMW with a 2.8L stroker M20, and a '06 Outback XT. All manual trans.

I found this 1972 914 1.7 on craigslist for $1600 and the main selling point to me was that most of the parts were there, it just seemed to need some basic TLC to get it running. Also, its a California car and not a total rust bucket. Also hasn't appeared to be in any major accidents. After pretty much finishing my E30 I've been itching for a new project... Ideally smog exempt.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22593-1541542078.1.jpg)

The plan for the car is to get it running with the original type 4. The PO, who only had it for a few months, said he thinks it needs a fuel pump... turns out, the fuel pump wasn't even plugged in. So OF COURSE it's not running. He got it to start briefly with just starter fluid, so I'm thinking that's pretty much it. I'm going to bring it back to stock configuration on the D-jet, change out the oil and fuel, plug in the dang fuel pump in and I pretty much expect it to start up no problem.

From there, I will get into the restoration phase. Take it down to bare metal (I believe the car was originally black, and has total crap paint job) tackle any rust, then repaint. Then get the interior/ exterior trim all sorted.

And, if I get through alll that... I will probably want to undertake a motor swap, unless I'm just in love with the type 4. I tossed a few ideas out there, but my ideal motor would be a light, high revving motor with ITB's. Since S14's are not exactly obtainable, the 20V 4A-GE blacktop is my best idea so far. KEP makes an adapter for it, plus, it doesn't make enough power to break the stock 901 trans. I am a mechanical engineer with access to a machine shop, so fabbing some engine mounts, routing cooling system etc will most likely be pretty doable.

What do you guys think? Am I in over my head?
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betz   New 914 owner! Already dreaming of engine swaps...   Nov 6 2018, 04:07 PM
aharder   :wttc:   Nov 6 2018, 04:39 PM
ValcoOscar   :wttc:   Nov 6 2018, 04:52 PM
mepstein   :wttc:   Nov 6 2018, 04:58 PM
theer   What do you guys think? Am I in over my head? ...   Nov 6 2018, 05:24 PM
betz   I had to look up what a 4A-GE blacktop is, but y...   Nov 6 2018, 06:19 PM
Shadowfax   :wttc: Looks like a great starting point.   Nov 6 2018, 05:46 PM
Chi-town   A blacktop is nice but parts are getting harder an...   Nov 6 2018, 08:11 PM
betz   A blacktop is nice but parts are getting harder a...   Nov 6 2018, 11:24 PM
Tdskip   Welcome! My guess is the height of the engin...   Nov 6 2018, 08:22 PM
76-914   :wttc: It will not be difficult to improve upon th...   Nov 6 2018, 09:01 PM
Cairo94507   :wttc: Regardless of what you do, have fun doing i...   Nov 7 2018, 08:29 AM
Chi-town   A blacktop is nice but parts are getting harder ...   Nov 7 2018, 09:03 AM
betz   I did love the sound of the ITBs screaming but y...   Nov 7 2018, 11:40 AM
Mueller   Welcome to the club! Quite a few 914 owners d...   Nov 7 2018, 10:09 AM
914-300Hemi   :wttc:   Nov 7 2018, 10:20 AM
914_teener   "The plan for the car is to get it running wi...   Nov 7 2018, 12:14 PM
MichiganMat   Hello from San Jose. I just finished up my WRX sw...   Nov 7 2018, 04:47 PM
Chi-town   Not really hurting it too much, seeing as multip...   Nov 7 2018, 04:53 PM
betz   A 16v 4AGE with ITB's sounds exactly the sa...   Nov 8 2018, 02:17 AM
Andyrew   A 16v 4AGE with ITB's sounds exactly the s...   Nov 8 2018, 10:59 AM
Mueller   Had I not gotten such a killer deal for my Honda V...   Nov 7 2018, 04:59 PM
Andyrew   I have a lot of thoughts on this subject :) Bang...   Nov 8 2018, 10:56 AM
mgp4591   I have a lot of thoughts on this subject :) Ban...   Nov 8 2018, 01:28 PM
Dave_Darling   I thought about the Honda engine and trans swap -...   Nov 8 2018, 05:35 PM
Andyrew   I thought about the Honda engine and trans swap ...   Nov 8 2018, 05:39 PM
Chris H.   Yes the K series is a very strong, cheap, plentifu...   Nov 8 2018, 02:13 PM
Rand   This subject has been beaten to death. Are you exp...   Nov 8 2018, 02:17 PM
betz   This subject has been beaten to death. Are you ex...   Nov 8 2018, 04:24 PM
Rand   This subject has been beaten to death. Are you e...   Nov 8 2018, 08:15 PM
Andyrew   Lots of 914 guys around you... Why dont you go for...   Nov 8 2018, 05:12 PM
betz   Lots of 914 guys around you... Why dont you go fo...   Nov 8 2018, 06:54 PM
Bleyseng   Lots of 914 guys around you... Why dont you go f...   May 15 2019, 07:35 AM
Andyrew   DP   Nov 8 2018, 05:31 PM
betz   Somebody talk me out of buying this guy and pullin...   Nov 9 2018, 01:35 PM
Andyrew   Somebody talk me out of buying this guy and pulli...   Nov 9 2018, 02:49 PM
betz   You were complaining the subaru being unreliable...   Nov 9 2018, 03:32 PM
Andyrew   You were complaining the subaru being unreliabl...   Nov 9 2018, 03:57 PM
PatrickB   Somebody talk me out of buying this guy and pulli...   Nov 11 2018, 05:52 AM
Chi-town   Somebody talk me out of buying this guy and pulli...   Nov 9 2018, 03:40 PM
Andyrew   [quote name='betz' post='2664360' date='Nov 9 201...   Nov 9 2018, 03:56 PM
betz   Tell ya what, if you want to waste money like th...   Nov 9 2018, 04:11 PM
Larmo63   I read this thread thinking I was logged into 914 ...   Nov 9 2018, 04:53 PM
Chi-town   :rotfl: Alfa owners on suicide watch now Looks ...   Nov 9 2018, 05:29 PM
Porschef   Buy it for the Brembo calipers :evilgrin:   Nov 9 2018, 05:31 PM
djway   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcPgE40t4dc Well ...   Nov 9 2018, 10:50 PM
Chris914n6   More motivation... K20A2 Porsche 911 http://www.9...   Nov 10 2018, 01:07 AM
betz   More motivation... K20A2 Porsche 911 I did my N...   Nov 10 2018, 10:13 AM
Dave_Darling   I did my Nissan VQ30DE swap back in 2000 before f...   Nov 11 2018, 01:35 PM
Chris914n6   I did my Nissan VQ30DE swap back in 2000 before ...   Nov 11 2018, 09:58 PM
Chris914n6   Most of the Subie guys use SpeedHut gauges. Mainly...   Nov 10 2018, 12:22 PM
betz   I've been sick the past few days, but I couldn...   Nov 10 2018, 06:17 PM
Chi-town   I've been sick the past few days, but I could...   Nov 11 2018, 01:48 PM
betz   I got it started!!! https://photos.ap...   Nov 11 2018, 04:45 PM
Andyrew   Awesome! Do a minor tune up and keep driving i...   Nov 11 2018, 05:09 PM
Mike Bellis   I'm a big advocate of the Audi 20v turbo. I...   Nov 11 2018, 08:34 PM
matthepcat   Nice to meet you today betz, will be watching the ...   Nov 11 2018, 09:05 PM
betz   I think my next step is to track down this weird i...   Nov 12 2018, 04:00 PM
Dave_Darling   First: FUEL LEAKS BAD!!! Make sure y...   Nov 12 2018, 04:33 PM
betz   First: FUEL LEAKS BAD!!! Make sure ...   Nov 12 2018, 08:15 PM
Andyrew   After driving the 914 I think I might just go a ...   Nov 12 2018, 09:38 PM
mepstein   My feeling was to do my suby swap with a cheap but...   Nov 12 2018, 08:21 PM
Tdskip   Going down a path that others have plowed is likel...   Nov 13 2018, 07:28 AM
betz   Going down a path that others have plowed is like...   Nov 15 2018, 03:43 PM
914_teener   Going down a path that others have plowed is lik...   Nov 15 2018, 03:49 PM
betz   Your personnel comments about someone probably ...   Nov 15 2018, 04:26 PM
mepstein   Your personnel comments about someone probably...   Nov 15 2018, 04:52 PM
betz   You just described a small to mid six. I would ...   Nov 15 2018, 05:42 PM
Mike Bellis   Going down a path that others have plowed is lik...   Nov 27 2018, 07:16 PM
Dave_Darling   We know people who run Type IV motors at 7K RPM pr...   Nov 15 2018, 06:27 PM
betz   Thanks for the reply Dave. I just made a black fr...   Nov 26 2018, 06:34 PM
rhodyguy   wow.   Nov 26 2018, 07:06 PM
Dave_Darling   Well, it sure looks cool! No idea of the answ...   Nov 26 2018, 11:18 PM
betz   Well, it sure looks cool! No idea of the ans...   Nov 27 2018, 11:17 AM
Larmo63   I'd call Jake Raby and get his opinion. :st...   Nov 27 2018, 12:22 AM
Chris914n6   The 86 is like the 350z... the enthusiasts are doi...   Nov 27 2018, 03:15 PM
betz   The 86 is like the 350z... the enthusiasts are do...   Nov 27 2018, 03:39 PM
1adam12   I originally thought of doing an FA-20 swap a year...   Nov 27 2018, 04:30 PM
betz   I originally thought of doing an FA-20 swap a yea...   Nov 27 2018, 05:27 PM
1adam12   I originally thought of doing an FA-20 swap a ye...   Nov 27 2018, 06:05 PM
Chi-town   FA20 is a joke. Underpowered, unreliable when used...   Nov 27 2018, 06:58 PM
betz   FA20 is a joke. Underpowered, unreliable when use...   Nov 28 2018, 12:45 AM
Chi-town   The EJ series engines even N/A are cheap and easy ...   Nov 28 2018, 12:56 AM
betz   Welp, after a half a year of deliberation I've...   Apr 23 2019, 04:32 PM
rhodyguy   What is the timing belt interval for that engine? ...   Apr 24 2019, 12:42 PM
Chi-town   That's not a mint one, that's your standar...   Apr 24 2019, 04:43 PM
betz   That's not a mint one, that's your standa...   Apr 24 2019, 05:26 PM
RolinkHaus   How about a German engine?? :shades2: :popcorn:   Apr 24 2019, 05:50 PM
betz   How about a German engine?? :shades2: :popcorn: ...   Apr 24 2019, 07:13 PM
Chris914n6   You want to do all the usual maintenance items bef...   Apr 24 2019, 06:02 PM
2mAn   Thanks for all of the welcomes! I hardly got...   May 14 2019, 04:38 PM


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