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| keizeikeitara |
 Nov 6 2018, 06:47 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
So me and my shop guys were able to get it the engine to turn over and I am so so so happy. Now I don't need a new engine, probably just needs a tune up kit on it.
Now below is my google gallery. Now I know there is quite a bit of rust, and thats okay, Im just tired of heading discouragement from non believers! since the 1.8 L engine runs, I wont be EJ20 swapping it, I am going to be keeping it original. but hey here is the videos of me getting it to run with my shop guys and the gallery Keizei's 914 Google Drive Folder Link>> [CLICK ME] |
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| Literati914 |
Nov 7 2018, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Good Job on getting it started! Probably fuel pump will help, but if you need a rebuild kit for that carb, call these guys (this page may be the needed kit):
http://www.carburetion.com/products/produc...x?part=KT-5292B |
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| VaccaRabite |
Nov 8 2018, 08:37 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,419 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Dallas TX. Nice! I grew up between Dallas, Denton, and Lake Texoma, and some of my family still lives on the lake.
I'm glad you got it running! Can you weld? Where your car is rusted is a BAD spot (if I have interpreted your pictures correctly), and common. Those are the longs, and they are the literal backbone for the car. Before you start driving it, you need to probe and find out how rusted it really is. Our cars will literally fold in half when the longs rust enough. Yours isn't there yet, but I'd get it fixed before driving it. Zach |
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| keizeikeitara |
Nov 8 2018, 08:44 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Nov 8 2018, 09:37 AM)  Dallas TX. Nice! I grew up between Dallas, Denton, and Lake Texoma, and some of my family still lives on the lake. I'm glad you got it running! Can you weld? Where your car is rusted is a BAD spot (if I have interpreted your pictures correctly), and common. Those are the longs, and they are the literal backbone for the car. Before you start driving it, you need to probe and find out how rusted it really is. Our cars will literally fold in half when the longs rust enough. Yours isn't there yet, but I'd get it fixed before driving it. Zach Hey Zach! I cannot weld, but Where I work, My shop employees can are going to help me. I plan on just replacing the entire longitudinal and all that is rusted anyway. I think I sourced one online that should work? 914 Passenger Long >>CLICK ME>> But yeah For sure its getting fixed before that! |
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| sixnotfour |
Nov 8 2018, 08:59 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,405 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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Congrats on running... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
most 914 owner could not weld untill they purchased a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| mepstein |
Nov 8 2018, 09:16 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,219 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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You will probably need the inner long, outer long, inner wheelhouse, rear floor pans, and inner suspension console. That should get you started. What you see is about 20% of the rust. Not trying to bash you, its just experience with these cars.
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| VaccaRabite |
Nov 8 2018, 09:43 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,419 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 8 2018, 10:16 AM) You will probably need the inner long, outer long, inner wheelhouse, rear floor pans, and inner suspension console. That should get you started. What you see is about 20% of the rust. Not trying to bash you, its just experience with these cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) How these cars were made, battery acid leaked onto a low point on the passenger side long, pooled there, and over the past 40 years ate the metal to bits. Fixing this area is an involved job, but many of our members have done it in thier garage - learning to weld at the same time. I learned to weld fixing the same area of my car (though it was not nearly as rough as yours). Zach |
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| bbrock |
Nov 8 2018, 09:52 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 8 2018, 08:16 AM) You will probably need the inner long, outer long, inner wheelhouse, rear floor pans, and inner suspension console. That should get you started. What you see is about 20% of the rust. Not trying to bash you, its just experience with these cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Plus some fabrication of parts not readily available or try to get the whole chunk of what you need from a donor. I was able to patch my inner long but it was a lot of work. Take heart, your car looks to be in similar condition as mine when I finally dove in for the resto. Thirty years of discouragement from nonbelievers is probably what saved my car. Spite can be a great motivator (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1513794304.jpg) That spot repaired before the jack point went back on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1506041831.jpg) And here's a recent pic taken about 18 months later (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1540170873_thumb.jpg) You can check out my build thread to see how a clueless idiot tackled a project of this size, or check out Jeff Hail's Bring Out Your Dead thread in the rebuild forum to learn from someone who knows what they are doing. Also, read through the various build threads from @cary . He provides lots of detail of repairs that are a treasure trove to learn from. Congrats on getting the engine running. Good luck and keep posting your progress! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Tbrown4x4 |
Nov 8 2018, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: 13-May 14 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 17,338 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(keizeikeitara @ Nov 6 2018, 05:47 PM) So me and my shop guys were able to get it the engine to turn over and I am so so so happy. Now I don't need a new engine, probably just needs a tune up kit on it. Now below is my google gallery. Now I know there is quite a bit of rust, and thats okay, Im just tired of heading discouragement from non believers! since the 1.8 L engine runs, I wont be EJ20 swapping it, I am going to be keeping it original. but hey here is the videos of me getting it to run with my shop guys and the gallery Keizei's 914 Google Drive Folder Link>> [CLICK ME] Nice! Primitive Holley fuel injection. haha. I understand the sickness and wish you luck. You have a long rewarding road ahead of you. I love to see these cars saved. Hope to follow your progress getting this back on the road! I won't be a negative Nancy, I think you know what you're in for. On a positive note, you are starting with a blank canvas, and can do anything you want with it. PS. I know a Suby swap would transform my DD, but there is a charm about these little air cooled cars that I would miss if I did. |
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| Literati914 |
Nov 8 2018, 02:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(keizeikeitara @ Nov 8 2018, 08:44 AM) NO!! I do not believe you need THAT $300 part - the item you linked to is a PASSENGER's COMPARTMENT item (the vertical metal next to the passenger's seat). Your problem is on the outside of the car. BTW, remember - "outter long" just refers to the outter most covering (you have plastic porsche script ones), inner long is the pieces under that cover. It's more confusing than it should be. Anyway.. IF...IF you find that the WHOLE right-side long needs to be replaced (I kind of doubt), then these are the items you need: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP301R = $125 [May find this not necessary] http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP331 = $165 [Definitely Need] Perhaps you could replace just the PP331 and add the following on top of it for extra stiffening: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP346R = $210 [Not necessary but..] Besides the above you'll also NEED: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP302 = $13 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP303 = $16 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP342R = $65 |
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| bbrock |
Nov 8 2018, 03:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Nov 8 2018, 01:31 PM) QUOTE(keizeikeitara @ Nov 8 2018, 08:44 AM) NO!! I do not believe you need THAT $300 part - the item you linked to is a PASSENGER's COMPARTMENT item (the vertical metal next to the passenger's seat). Your problem is on the outside of the car. BTW, remember - "outter long" just refers to the outter most covering (you have plastic porsche script ones), inner long is the pieces under that cover. It's more confusing than it should be. Anyway.. IF...IF you find that the WHOLE right-side long needs to be replaced (I kind of doubt), then these are the items you need: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP301R = $125 [May find this not necessary] http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP331 = $165 [Definitely Need] Perhaps you could replace just the PP331 and add the following on top of it for extra stiffening: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP346R = $210 [Not necessary but..] Besides the above you'll also NEED: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP302 = $13 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP303 = $16 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP342R = $65 And if you do need the outer long (and I'll bet you do), take a look at the kit package to save some $$ http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/KIT-GR Looking at the amount of corrosion, I'll be surprised if you don't find at least some damage that needs repaired on the inner long, so I wouldn't count that out until you've done more exhaustive exploration. |
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| Olympic 914 |
Nov 8 2018, 03:57 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,661 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Nov 8 2018, 03:31 PM) QUOTE(keizeikeitara @ Nov 8 2018, 08:44 AM) NO!! I do not believe you need THAT $300 part - the item you linked to is a PASSENGER's COMPARTMENT item (the vertical metal next to the passenger's seat). Your problem is on the outside of the car. BTW, remember - "outter long" just refers to the outter most covering (you have plastic porsche script ones), inner long is the pieces under that cover. It's more confusing than it should be. Anyway.. IF...IF you find that the WHOLE right-side long needs to be replaced (I kind of doubt), then these are the items you need: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP301R = $125 [May find this not necessary] http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP331 = $165 [Definitely Need] Perhaps you could replace just the PP331 and add the following on top of it for extra stiffening: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP346R = $210 [Not necessary but..] Besides the above you'll also NEED: http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP302 = $13 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP303 = $16 http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP342R = $65 Also worth looking at are these long reinforcement panels from Brad at 914 Ltd http://914ltd.com/store.php?c=1384303079 |
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| keizeikeitara |
Nov 8 2018, 04:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Bless this forumn. Im so glad all of yall are here. Really. Jus tthe boost I was needing!
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| keizeikeitara |
Nov 10 2018, 01:30 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(bbrock @ Nov 8 2018, 10:52 AM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 8 2018, 08:16 AM) You will probably need the inner long, outer long, inner wheelhouse, rear floor pans, and inner suspension console. That should get you started. What you see is about 20% of the rust. Not trying to bash you, its just experience with these cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Plus some fabrication of parts not readily available or try to get the whole chunk of what you need from a donor. I was able to patch my inner long but it was a lot of work. Take heart, your car looks to be in similar condition as mine when I finally dove in for the resto. Thirty years of discouragement from nonbelievers is probably what saved my car. Spite can be a great motivator (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1513794304.jpg) That spot repaired before the jack point went back on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1506041831.jpg) And here's a recent pic taken about 18 months later (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1540170873_thumb.jpg) You can check out my build thread to see how a clueless idiot tackled a project of this size, or check out Jeff Hail's Bring Out Your Dead thread in the rebuild forum to learn from someone who knows what they are doing. Also, read through the various build threads from @cary . He provides lots of detail of repairs that are a treasure trove to learn from. Congrats on getting the engine running. Good luck and keep posting your progress! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Oh man, By the way, Thank you so much for posting that cutaway pic, that's EXACTLY what I needed to see. Big thanks! |
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| bbrock |
Nov 10 2018, 01:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(keizeikeitara @ Nov 10 2018, 12:30 PM) Oh man, By the way, Thank you so much for posting that cutaway pic, that's EXACTLY what I needed to see. Big thanks! You're welcome. Lots more detailed pics of these repairs on the threads I mentioned and others. Makes for entertaining bed time reading and really helps prepare for what you are up against. |
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| michelko |
Nov 12 2018, 05:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 30-November 03 From: Germany, Lambsheim Member No.: 1,404 Region Association: None |
Reminds me on my restoration: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748
Maybe you can find some Inspiration. Have fun Michael |
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| keizeikeitara |
Dec 17 2018, 09:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ive been meaning to reply, been rather busy lately.
I have all my paperwork, just have to take it all in this week and Ill have my plates and a bonded title. So that parts done. After my cali trip in jan to visit some friends, I will be starting on it. |
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| rhodyguy |
Dec 17 2018, 11:36 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,054 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Take pictures of everything and post them. Ask for honest opinions. The challenge of rebuilding a 914, MONEY/time/skills, is not for everyone. The first picture link did not work for me so I have no idea how steep or long the path is.
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| keizeikeitara |
Dec 17 2018, 11:37 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 17 2018, 11:36 AM) Take pictures of everything and post them. Ask for honest opinions. The challenge of rebuilding a 914, MONEY/time/skills, is not for everyone. The first picture link did not work for me so I have no idea how steep or long the path is. oh yeah, I need to fix that link, I removed my pics from goggle drive, Ill posta an updated link in a bit |
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| keizeikeitara |
Dec 28 2018, 01:24 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 22-October 18 From: Dallas,Texas Member No.: 22,596 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I got my paper plates Last week! Shes all mine!!!!
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