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> Wont start, struggling
ericoneal
post Nov 26 2018, 07:56 AM
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I took my engine out (dual carburetors) awhile back to put in a new clutch. Reinstalled the engine and now it wont start unless I pump the accelerator pedal like crazy. Also, the tach is not working which seems to indicate maybe a coil problem?

I am getting plenty of fuel in the carbs and a spark on all for plug wires. I tried also rotating the distributor slightly each way to check that maybe it was a timing issue, but that did nothing.

Like I said, the car starts if I pump the gas pedal, but will not stay running if I do not.
Stumped. Any ideas guys? I'm sure its something simple, this thing ran great before...

Anything else to try would be helpful. THanks

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ericoneal   Wont start   Nov 26 2018, 07:56 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   check the dwell angle and make sure it is good at ...   Nov 26 2018, 09:19 AM
ericoneal   Pretty sure the coil is wired correctly, I took pi...   Nov 26 2018, 10:29 AM
Mblizzard   Because the Tach draws its signal from the coil, I...   Nov 26 2018, 12:08 PM
Tdskip   If you didn't move the distributor when the en...   Nov 26 2018, 12:16 PM
IronHillRestorations   Spark, air, fuel, compression. It's one of th...   Nov 26 2018, 01:52 PM
ericoneal   Still no luck, here is what I did: 1. I checked ...   Nov 26 2018, 08:11 PM
Tdskip   That sounds like a P-51 Merlin warming up. Seems ...   Nov 26 2018, 10:09 PM
second wind   I lost three months of run time with my car due to...   Nov 26 2018, 11:13 PM
Mblizzard   I have o say its fuel as well. Do the standard sp...   Nov 27 2018, 08:03 AM
ericoneal   I sprayed fluid in the carbs and it fires up easie...   Nov 27 2018, 08:36 AM
mobymutt   I sprayed fluid in the carbs and it fires up easi...   Nov 27 2018, 09:16 AM
rhodyguy   Is it possible to maintain 2.7-3k rpm with a stead...   Nov 27 2018, 08:52 AM
IronHillRestorations   How long did it sit? My guess is the fuel that wa...   Nov 27 2018, 09:50 AM
ericoneal   Sent the video to a local guy here who is very goo...   Nov 27 2018, 11:54 AM
Mblizzard   Sent the video to a local guy here who is very go...   Nov 27 2018, 12:19 PM
ericoneal   Its a single hexbar between the two. Pretty sure ...   Nov 27 2018, 12:20 PM
Tdskip   You should be able to disconnect the bar and set e...   Nov 27 2018, 12:26 PM
Mblizzard   You should be able to disconnect the bar and set ...   Nov 27 2018, 12:31 PM
TheCabinetmaker   Sounds like the engine is fighting itself to run f...   Nov 28 2018, 11:55 AM
Triaddave   It may sound stupid but maybe a kinked fuel line o...   Nov 28 2018, 12:12 PM
marksteinhilber   You have unsteady firing from a number of cylinder...   Nov 28 2018, 02:09 PM
ericoneal   I will double check the spark tonight by pulling t...   Nov 28 2018, 03:35 PM
cgnj   I will double check the spark tonight by pulling ...   Nov 29 2018, 05:05 AM
sdoolin   Watched the video also. I think you have a linkage...   Nov 29 2018, 07:33 AM
ericoneal   Thats why this website is great. PMed received, w...   Nov 29 2018, 11:30 AM
Mblizzard   Thats why this website is great. PMed received, ...   Nov 29 2018, 12:10 PM
Tdskip   Making progress....please keep us posted and someo...   Nov 29 2018, 01:50 PM
ericoneal   I got it covered.. Making progress....please kee...   Nov 29 2018, 03:35 PM
cgnj   post a pic of your carbs and linkage as they are c...   Nov 30 2018, 05:18 AM
ericoneal   sdoolin rolled over this afternoon in his great lo...   Nov 30 2018, 09:26 PM
wndsrfr   sdoolin rolled over this afternoon in his great l...   Dec 1 2018, 07:21 AM
sdoolin   As Eric said, not a fuel issue. We removed and cle...   Dec 1 2018, 09:02 AM
Tdskip   Well - look at it this way, the carb work sounds l...   Dec 1 2018, 09:54 AM
cgnj   basics 101 At this point, I would jack it jp put ...   Dec 1 2018, 11:23 AM
injunmort   do you have access to a timing light? how are you ...   Dec 1 2018, 01:29 PM
ericoneal   do you have access to a timing light? how are you...   Dec 1 2018, 01:34 PM
injunmort   yes, there is more to it than that. are you runnin...   Dec 6 2018, 09:27 AM
ericoneal   Thanks, I'm familar with timing the engine onc...   Dec 6 2018, 09:48 AM
injunmort   you must make sure points are opening when you set...   Dec 6 2018, 12:50 PM
rhodyguy   Try turning the idle up using ONE idle speed adjus...   Dec 6 2018, 01:25 PM
mobymutt   Are you sure the firing order is correct? My car i...   Dec 6 2018, 01:59 PM
wndsrfr   Are you sure the firing order is correct? My car ...   Dec 6 2018, 04:59 PM
Rand   I haven't read the whole thread. But you know ...   Dec 6 2018, 05:11 PM
Spoke   In the video, your first key turn resulted in the ...   Dec 7 2018, 06:48 PM
Tdskip   In the video, your first key turn resulted in the...   Dec 7 2018, 08:39 PM
second wind   For $50 I would buy a new coil to totally eli...   Dec 7 2018, 07:20 PM
Rand   Coils have a VERY low failure rate. Test first.   Dec 7 2018, 08:35 PM
ericoneal   I got the new starter on today, so at least I am b...   Dec 7 2018, 09:15 PM
Tdskip   0.016", same as any other 914 or Type IV moto...   Dec 8 2018, 01:56 AM
mobymutt   Maybe post some pictures of the wires, distributer...   Dec 8 2018, 01:57 PM
ericoneal   Tested the coil and am getting a strong white spar...   Dec 9 2018, 10:36 AM
cgnj   Tested the coil and am getting a strong white spa...   Dec 9 2018, 11:30 AM
Spoke   The item on the side of the distributor is the vac...   Dec 9 2018, 10:48 AM
ericoneal   Tried that too. At this point just going through ...   Dec 9 2018, 11:08 AM
Spoke   Tried that too. OK, so you sprayed starting flu...   Dec 9 2018, 11:46 AM
cuddy_k   I’m thinking fuel as well. Could be that the pum...   Dec 9 2018, 11:14 AM
ericoneal   After spraying, it takes a few times, then starts ...   Dec 9 2018, 11:50 AM
Spoke   After spraying, it takes a few times, then starts...   Dec 9 2018, 12:32 PM
euro911   Have you checked the fuel pressure at the carb...   Dec 9 2018, 02:49 PM
injunmort   you have still not timed it. yes the distributor a...   Dec 9 2018, 02:54 PM
tom.esh   How old is the gas in the tank? Could it just be b...   Dec 9 2018, 03:03 PM
Tdskip   Bump for an update and any help needed to get you ...   Dec 11 2018, 08:21 AM
ericoneal   I'm starting to think its a fuel pressure issu...   Dec 11 2018, 09:35 AM
Jamie   I'm starting to think its a fuel pressure iss...   Dec 11 2018, 10:46 AM
Tdskip   Please do!   Dec 11 2018, 09:36 AM
wndsrfr   I'm betting on the points....   Dec 11 2018, 09:51 AM
ericoneal   Stuttgart Specialists, here in Louisville.   Dec 11 2018, 11:54 AM
Tdskip   Any news?   Dec 13 2018, 03:17 PM
ericoneal   So as suspected all along, the problem would turn ...   Dec 17 2018, 09:31 AM
VaccaRabite   So as suspected all along, the problem would turn...   Dec 17 2018, 09:57 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I would say that it blew out a galley plug to spil...   Dec 17 2018, 09:58 AM
Tdskip   Glad she is running well, at least that is sort it...   Dec 17 2018, 10:00 AM
rhodyguy   With all the cranking, peddle pushing and fuel squ...   Dec 17 2018, 10:11 AM
ericoneal   I drained the two quarts that were left and put in...   Dec 17 2018, 10:15 AM
rhodyguy   You'll know whether it's a galley plug or ...   Dec 17 2018, 11:14 AM
ericoneal   Checking back in, have a look at this: Finally go...   Dec 30 2018, 07:08 PM
injunmort   there are no shims behind the seal. that's wha...   Dec 30 2018, 07:46 PM
wndsrfr   there are no shims behind the seal. that's wh...   Dec 30 2018, 08:01 PM
914_teener   there are no shims behind the seal. that's wh...   Dec 31 2018, 12:21 PM
ericoneal   It must be shim remains because the seal spring is...   Dec 30 2018, 08:12 PM
914_teener   It must be shim remains because the seal spring i...   Dec 31 2018, 01:59 PM
injunmort   if that is in fact shim remains, it was installed ...   Dec 31 2018, 01:05 PM
ericoneal   Hard question to answer. I dont know where the sh...   Dec 31 2018, 01:22 PM
injunmort   I am going to pull the flywheel off another motor ...   Dec 31 2018, 01:46 PM
injunmort   this engine has three shims behind the oil seal. I...   Dec 31 2018, 02:13 PM
ericoneal   Yeah, I'm with you on all of that. Just conce...   Dec 31 2018, 02:45 PM
injunmort   install the flywheel. measure endplay and order 3 ...   Dec 31 2018, 03:41 PM
euro911   Here ya go, Eric ... everything you need to know t...   Dec 31 2018, 04:36 PM
ericoneal   THanks, will check that out. I've actually wa...   Dec 31 2018, 08:37 PM
cgnj   That doesn't look like enough material for 3 s...   Jan 1 2019, 10:37 AM
wndsrfr   That doesn't look like enough material for 3 ...   Jan 1 2019, 12:17 PM
ericoneal   Hi all, still working on this and finally have the...   Jan 8 2019, 08:02 AM
IronHillRestorations   I only use Sabo rear main seals Eric. They are th...   Jan 8 2019, 08:31 AM
76-914   I only use Sabo rear main seals Eric. They are t...   Jan 8 2019, 09:32 AM
ericoneal   Have the seal, need the shims   Jan 8 2019, 08:33 AM
ericoneal   FYI for anyone reading this, found them here: the...   Jan 8 2019, 09:01 AM
worn   FYI for anyone reading this, found them here: th...   Jan 8 2019, 10:21 AM
ericoneal   Good thinking. I will double check the surface to...   Jan 8 2019, 10:32 AM
rhodyguy   Expensive at $12?   Jan 8 2019, 11:27 AM
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