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914 electric for sale near me, Is this car done or a project? ? |
thelogo |
Dec 10 2018, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/d...6769507868.html
This belong to anyone here ? What type of range could i expect? I know this type of stuff can get expensive, so 18 seems like pennies on the dollar . Why arent they and when will we start seeing 912 and 911 electric conversions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) |
mb911 |
Dec 10 2018, 03:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,854 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/d...6769507868.html This belong to anyone here ? What type of range could i expect? I know this type of stuff can get expensive, so 18 seems like pennies on the dollar . Why arent they and when will we start seeing 912 and 911 electric conversions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) There is the one 914-6 thread right now that his son just did a 911 electric conversion.. |
mobymutt |
Dec 10 2018, 07:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/d...6769507868.html This belong to anyone here ? What type of range could i expect? I know this type of stuff can get expensive, so 18 seems like pennies on the dollar . Why arent they and when will we start seeing 912 and 911 electric conversions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) As much as I'm a fan of electric cars, I don't think a 914 is the right platform for various reasons. Looks nice though. My car gets about 90 miles on a 27kWh battery. This car has 23 kWh, so I guess you could expect around 75 miles of range. |
Tdskip |
Dec 10 2018, 07:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I think there is a 912 conversion company out there.
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Rand |
Dec 10 2018, 07:38 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
But why? Sometimes people do things just because they can and believe in it, not because it makes sense. Battery pigs need HUGE tech to work efficiently, and they require charging by our grid... which is still mostly coal-powered in the US, and then very complicated disposal.
I appreciate the growth of electric. But until it makes more sense, an efficient engine makes more sense. |
porschetub |
Dec 10 2018, 07:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,701 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
But why? Sometimes people do things just because they can and believe in it, not because it makes sense. Battery pigs need HUGE tech to work efficiently, and they require charging by our grid... which is still mostly coal-powered in the US, and then very complicated disposal. I appreciate the growth of electric. But until it makes more sense, an efficient engine makes more sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) not my thing ,leave electric for lastest tech and remember how the power is made to drive them,there are other down sides and most don't even look @ the big picture. |
Dave_Darling |
Dec 10 2018, 08:23 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Why?
Why not? I know one person who did the conversion specifically because he didn't have to pay bridge tolls on his daily commute. (Carpool lane at that time meant zero toll; not sure if that's the case now.) Others do it because it's interesting. Some of our power locally is renewable--and even more for people who have solar installed. If someone wants to have an electric 914, I think that's cool! I'm not sure I would own one, mind you, but it's not my car... --DD |
gereed75 |
Dec 10 2018, 10:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,247 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I have been casually following electrics for some time, only as an observer, no hands on experience. The availability of life PO batteries is a huge performance leap over lead acid. Not as energy dense as the Tesla battery technology but pretty good and practical for a city runabout
This car seems very solid with a lot of the “right” components - AC motor, lifepo’s good controller and charger.. my quess is that $18000 is about what the electrics cost, not including labor and the car. Seems like a good deal. Performance could be increased by adding more batteries. This is a rather small battery pack. My quess would be this car would have comparable performance to a stock 1.7. 914’s make easy conversions because the motor can mount directly to the trans and the chassis form factor makes battery storage pretty easy. Much easier than the 911 chassis. |
Steve |
Dec 10 2018, 11:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,589 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
IMHO You can get a lease return Fiat 500e for half that price. The more you learn about electric cars, the more your better off buying a real one.
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mepstein |
Dec 11 2018, 07:31 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,275 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
IMHO You can get a lease return Fiat 500e for half that price. The more you learn about electric cars, the more your better off buying a real one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) depends what your goals are. |
carr914 |
Dec 11 2018, 07:41 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,695 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
find out if the car came from Florida - there was a guy in Ft Myers that built one that looked like this.
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gereed75 |
Dec 11 2018, 07:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,247 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Agree that if your goal is just to go electric economically for normal transportation, a fiat or Nissan Leaf is the way to go. There are other reasons to go converted 914, just like there are other reasons to go 914 instead of Miata or BRZ if you’re looking at sports car at ownership
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Valy |
Dec 11 2018, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,676 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
Regarding range, there are 2 key factors that are missing on that car:
1. Regenerative brakes - from my experience with 2 electric cars that I own, this accounts for about 25% of your range, especially if you drive in the city or over hills. I estimate it's range to be about maximum 50miles. 2. Battery temperature management - batteries are very temperature dependent. You can't charge them to full capacity when to cold, can't charge them fast when hot and you can't get all the energy out when too hot or too cold. This will reduce the mileage on cold days by 20% to about 40miles. The car also has only a 120V charger that will charge at about 1.5kw so if you need a recharge during the day it will take you many hours to charge that 23kwh battery. (Full recharge is 16 hours) |
whitetwinturbo |
Dec 17 2018, 03:27 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
......and WHY is yellow top Optima battery in listing?
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914_teener |
Dec 17 2018, 03:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
But why? Sometimes people do things just because they can and believe in it, not because it makes sense. Battery pigs need HUGE tech to work efficiently, and they require charging by our grid... which is still mostly coal-powered in the US, and then very complicated disposal. I appreciate the growth of electric. But until it makes more sense, an efficient engine makes more sense. Porsche...the world's most profitable car company has invested over 2 Billion in electric car development. That is not on a whim. Coal accounted for just over 30% of power generation in the US, so not mostly. Natural Gas to generate electricity is way cheaper. I just got back from Germany. The new 911's are already being configured for electric power in the future. I agree with others, that car is old tech. Why buy that unless it is for "novelty" sake. |
Unobtanium-inc |
Dec 17 2018, 04:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,210 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
For the record, Dr. Porsche invented the electric car, so seeing them go back this way is in some ways only natural, since that was his dream along. Granted it took over 100 years to get back to it.
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rhodyguy |
Dec 17 2018, 04:23 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
This time of year it's all the lighting, wipers, accessories, heat/defrost that will all be on except when parked at work. The duty cycle and duration must be impacted.
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Rand |
Dec 17 2018, 05:14 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Elon is a friend. I love all the electric shit. BUT it does not belong in a 914! Everything wrong with this! Yeah, let's pludge a bunch of old dead old batteries into a car that was light and make everything that was right with it wrong. This is a 914 forum, right?
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siverson |
Dec 17 2018, 05:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
Coal accounted for just over 30% of power generation in the US, so not mostly. Natural Gas to generate electricity is way cheaper. Right - Wikipedia says it's actually 17.4% in the US for coal. Coal energy is basically 0% in California and more than half of California's energy production now comes from renewable sources. Virtually all new cars will be electric in 10 years (or less). The switch is going to happen pretty quickly. -Steve |
914_teener |
Dec 17 2018, 05:57 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Coal accounted for just over 30% of power generation in the US, so not mostly. Natural Gas to generate electricity is way cheaper. Right - Wikipedia says it's actually 17.4% in the US for coal. Coal energy is basically 0% in California and more than half of California's energy production now comes from renewable sources. Virtually all new cars will be electric in 10 years (or less). The switch is going to happen pretty quickly. -Steve Well....the change is inevitable and is coming. It just hasn't hit the economic tipping point quite yet. It will happen as quickly as the range on the cars increases.....but it is coming. Pretty easy decision for Porsche. It is a natural progression for them. |
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