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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
This topic has probably come up before, I honestly tried the search function with several options, but couldn't find anything??
The in-cabin fire extinguisher that came with the car is up for renewal. I'm a cheap bastard at heart, but this doesn't seem like the right time to cheap out and forego a replacement, even if it's for something I hope I'll never have to use. Especially since even the "good" ones I saw were all sub-$100 (?) I like the idea of keeping handy in the cabin instead of one of the trunks. Realize that comes with some space and mounting considerations. FWIW: My existing unit was mounted parallel to the tunnel and ahead of the shifter (no center console box). What does this esteemed knowledge base use and where/how do you mount? Thanks in advance for recommendations. - MR PS: Hope I'm not opening another religious debate, similar to "What's the best engine oil?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,722 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
The best fire extinguisher is the one you don't need to use for it to be effective.
Look into tech like FireCut. Cabin fire extinguishers are to make the driver feel better and maybe brain someone in an accident. They don't do much to actually put out a fire. Zach |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 242 Joined: 19-January 13 From: Beaverton Member No.: 15,386 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
The cost difference between good and bad extinguishers is insignificant if it is your car that's burning. First thing to do if you suspect you have a fire is to turn your ignition OFF. As for effective extinguishers, halon is best.
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oakdalecurtis |
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Oakdalecurtis ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,356 Joined: 5-June 15 From: Oakdale, Ca Member No.: 18,802 Region Association: Central California ![]() ![]() |
Here's my fire solution(s). I have a BlazeCut system installed under the lid. I do not use a rain tray since I NEVER drive in the wet. I painted the BlazeCut tube black so that it does not show through the engine cover. You might also notice the engine deck lid steel cable restraint on the left side so that when I pop the lid, the hinges aren't slammed and worked until breakage ensues.
And just in case I have a cabin fire, I have a Kidde extinguisher inside my custom built center console box..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 4-July 14 From: Tampa Bay, Florida Member No.: 17,589 ![]() |
The best fire extinguisher is the one you don't need to use for it to be effective. Look into tech like FireCut. Cabin fire extinguishers are to make the driver feel better and maybe brain someone in an accident. They don't do much to actually put out a fire. Zach Not sure I understand your logic, Zach. A cabin fire extinguisher saved my 924S years ago from an interior electrical fire in the rear hatch area. Put the fire right out, how about that, and I think that's why they call it a "fire extinguisher". Ansbacher |
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Ve get too soon old, und too late schmart ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 11-October 12 From: Islip, Long Island, NY Member No.: 15,026 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Here's my fire solution(s). I have a BlazeCut system installed under the lid. I do not use a rain tray since I NEVER drive in the wet. I painted the BlazeCut tube black so that it does not show through the engine cover. You might also notice the engine deck lid steel cable restraint on the left side so that when I pop the lid, the hinges aren't slammed and worked until breakage ensues. And just in case I have a cabin fire, I have a Kidde extinguisher inside my custom built center console box..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ![]() ![]() ![]() Kinda ironic you have a Crane "FireBall" right under your Blaze-Cut. |
PeeGreen 914 |
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
https://extinguishstick.com/
Have you ever seen these? They are pretty cool in action. I have watched a few people use them on auto fires. |
oakdalecurtis |
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Oakdalecurtis ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,356 Joined: 5-June 15 From: Oakdale, Ca Member No.: 18,802 Region Association: Central California ![]() ![]() |
Here's my fire solution(s). I have a BlazeCut system installed under the lid. I do not use a rain tray since I NEVER drive in the wet. I painted the BlazeCut tube black so that it does not show through the engine cover. You might also notice the engine deck lid steel cable restraint on the left side so that when I pop the lid, the hinges aren't slammed and worked until breakage ensues. And just in case I have a cabin fire, I have a Kidde extinguisher inside my custom built center console box..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ![]() ![]() ![]() Kinda ironic you have a Crane "FireBall" right under your Blaze-Cut. Don’t you believe in ying and yang?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) |
stownsen914 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 941 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None ![]() |
Same idea as https://elementfire.com/products/element-e50 ...
I haven't seen one in person, but there has been talk of them over on the Pelican forum. Tiny, they go for 50 seconds, and leave no residue. Seems like a good option. https://extinguishstick.com/ Have you ever seen these? They are pretty cool in action. I have watched a few people use them on auto fires. As for the comment about cabin fire extinguishers not being of value ... I put out a small engine fire on my racecar this past summer with a handheld due to an intake backfire. Large fires start as small ones ... I carry a handheld in all my older cars. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
I have the larger Industrial size Element in my car, 100 seconds of effective use.
It's still pretty small, sits behind the seat and won't kill you in a car accident. |
Coondog |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,767 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Based on Coondog's recommendation, that's what I bought. I keep it behind my seat.
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,875 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) @coondog Is a 2.5lb unit sufficient? |
ndfrigi |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,965 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) @coondog Is a 2.5lb unit sufficient? Sir Greg @coondog , this is from your car and do u still have the same size on your car now? Like Jeffrey is asking, is 2.5lbs enough or is there any smaller that will fit under the 914 passenger seat? ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Greg, How about this PEMALL HALON 1211 PA-H 2.5. It is a liquified gas type extinguisher? ![]() |
Coondog |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Here is my current set up Purple K 20 B-C. Halotron 2.5 B-C
Going by pounds is not accurate. The number for a B or C fire extinguisher tells you how many square feet it will put out. For a A the number means gallons equivalent to water. 2A 10BC Two gallons of water for a type A fire. 10 BC 10 square feet. It’s the B C rating that’s important to us due to fuel fires. Purple K is the best for fuel and metal fires. The halotron for electrical fires. Amazon sells both. ![]() |
Coondog |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Greg, How about this PEMALL HALON 1211 PA-H 2.5. It is a liquified gas type extinguisher? ![]() Great for electrical fires not so much for gasoline. Get a a Purple K and put both in your car. Gasoline travels under the engine tins so while your trying to put out the upper engine fire it’s still running underneath the car. This is why I don’t like those stick fire extinguishers as it doesn’t allow you to get close enough to put out fire under the tins. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Buy a Purple K extinguisher. You can find them on Amazon. Trust me, fighting fires is my job. All those little cabin fire extinguishers works about as good as pissing in the wind..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Greg, How about this PEMALL HALON 1211 PA-H 2.5. It is a liquified gas type extinguisher? ![]() Great for electrical fires not so much for gasoline. Get a a Purple K and put both in your car. Gasoline travels under the engine tins so while your trying to put out the upper engine fire it’s still running underneath the car. This is why I don’t like those stick fire extinguishers as it doesn’t allow you to get close enough to put out fire under the tins. On it, thanks. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
For many years I was an SCCA corner worker, and I also owned and drove my own race cars. What I learned from both practice fires and real racing incidents is that once a fire gets established (burning oil, rubber, breached fuel tank or cell) it is beyond anything hand-held. Standard dry-chem can knock down flames, but hot parts can re-ignite the fire. And dry-chem is caustic, and can corrode aluminum, wiring, plastics, etc. Halon is most effective in closed spaces since it displaces oxygen. I works best if pre-plumbed into the engine compartment or fuel storage area, but maybe not so well if you have to open a lid for access.
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