Inserting Nylon Shifter Bushing, Cannot get it into the Firewall |
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Inserting Nylon Shifter Bushing, Cannot get it into the Firewall |
ctc911ctc |
Dec 14 2018, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Hi,
OK, after 3 hours of trying I gave up for today. '74 2.0, shifter was loose, hitting R on the 1-2 shift. All of the bushings were shot, bought new ones from 914R, they looked super sturdy, very hard Nylon. Started with the one up front, Firewall bushing. Could not get it into the car. Started by heating them in boiling water. Tried pushing them in with: large screw driver Larger Screw Driver Socket (big) Long Pipe the OD being the size of the busing Pipe and a Hammer Pipe and a Bigger Hammer Boiled it each time to hopefully soften it up a bit. Good news is the bushing is still in good shape, man is that things strong. Any hints? Have a call into 914R, trying to get a jump on this with this post so I can drive the car this weekend! Thanks! CTC911CTC |
TravisNeff |
Dec 14 2018, 05:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It is tough - keep doing more of what you have been. I try to catch an edge of the lip and beat the f*cker in.
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ctc911ctc |
Dec 14 2018, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
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PanelBilly |
Dec 14 2018, 07:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,788 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Dead blow hammer. Get one at Harbor Freight
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Dave_Darling |
Dec 14 2018, 07:17 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,974 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Silly question: Have you taken the front shift rod out first?
--DD |
914werke |
Dec 14 2018, 07:28 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 9,894 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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bbrock |
Dec 14 2018, 07:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Can't speak for the 914rubber part, but I just installed a NOS genuine bushing in my build last week. I just popped it in by hand. Took a good bit of pressure but no tools and it took only a few seconds. Shift rod was out, of course.
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DickSteinkamp |
Dec 14 2018, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 27-February 17 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 20,876 Region Association: None |
A little silicone grease helps also.
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Matty900 |
Dec 14 2018, 08:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A little silicone grease helps also. No Hammer (tho I did try the same thing at first) Try a bolt, 2 large washers, and a nut. Then you can fish the bolt and washer out of the tunnel from the inspection cover inside the car on top of the tunnel. Attached thumbnail(s) |
IronHillRestorations |
Dec 15 2018, 09:57 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,707 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
RIX 914 Parts bushings are easiest to install.
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Tdskip |
Dec 15 2018, 10:38 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,674 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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iankarr |
Dec 15 2018, 11:13 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,469 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
The tangerine racing bushing/setup is another great option. And it doesn’t require removing the front shift rod. You may have to grind down the coupler by a mm or so, but it’s a 3 hole and pop rivet install...
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Larmo63 |
Dec 15 2018, 12:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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porschetub |
Dec 15 2018, 01:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,695 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I fitted a genuine one that came with my car ,they are still loose when they are in otherwise I guess they would never go in ?,the Tangerine design cures that problem and others....its just a better design,worth the price and you can rebuild them. |
ctc911ctc |
Dec 15 2018, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Er,,,,ah,,,,hmmm,,,,,,No I did not.
My initial thought was: 'Just plug this guy right in using the shaft as a guide! When I read your note Dave: Dawn Broke across my Marble Head! Of course the shaft is keeping the bushing from compressing!!!!!! UGH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) So I took the shaft our, cleaned it and put the bushing in using the bolt method. After I did it wrong a few times I got a much larger bolt, some fender washers and then cranked it in. Total time spent on this? 5 hours. Next time I will be able to do it in 1 hour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Thank you Dave and Team 914, Respectfully, Long on knowledge, short on experience, CTC911CTC Silly question: Have you taken the front shift rod out first? --DD |
Tdskip |
Dec 16 2018, 08:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,674 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Glad you got it sorted, and very common thing to get tripped up on.
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ctc911ctc |
Dec 16 2018, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Glad you got it sorted, and very common thing to get tripped up on. UPDATE II woke up, jumped into my greasy clothes and went to re-install the shift linkage. OK,,,,,,,,easy,,,,, push the shift rod back into the bushing......HHHHmmmm, a bit tight, put some grease on everything and pushed again and THE BUSHING POPPED OUT! Well, I took a look at the bushing and two of the 6 compression fingers were a bit deformed. Most likely from my using the brute force hammer technique. I took a look at other vendors but i believe that the 914R guys have a good solution. I will post a how-to as to this particular bushing when i get the new one (I ordered 2, but you knew that) and use my method of sure-fire installation honed after 6+ hours of working this problem..... By the way, everything takes me 2-3X longer, no lift just short jack stands.....sigh. CTC911CTC Long on Knowledge, very short on experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
euro911 |
Dec 16 2018, 04:54 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I also went with Chris Foley's (Tangering Racing) spherical firewall shift bushing, as I had no other good options. A previous owner had converted a 75 to a tail-shift transaxle (yep) with an early shift lever and rods, and riveted the early oval transfer console to the firewall.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-7300-1389499985.jpg) When I removed the console, I found the hole so buggered-up that I would have had to cut out a section of the firewall and repair it with a section from a late donor car. |
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