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> Inserting Nylon Shifter Bushing, Cannot get it into the Firewall
ctc911ctc
post Dec 14 2018, 05:00 PM
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Hi,

OK, after 3 hours of trying I gave up for today.

'74 2.0, shifter was loose, hitting R on the 1-2 shift.

All of the bushings were shot, bought new ones from 914R, they looked super sturdy, very hard Nylon.

Started with the one up front, Firewall bushing. Could not get it into the car. Started by heating them in boiling water.

Tried pushing them in with:
large screw driver
Larger Screw Driver
Socket (big)
Long Pipe the OD being the size of the busing
Pipe and a Hammer
Pipe and a Bigger Hammer

Boiled it each time to hopefully soften it up a bit.

Good news is the bushing is still in good shape, man is that things strong.

Any hints?
Have a call into 914R, trying to get a jump on this with this post so I can drive the car this weekend!

Thanks!
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post Dec 14 2018, 05:10 PM
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It is tough - keep doing more of what you have been. I try to catch an edge of the lip and beat the f*cker in.
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post Dec 14 2018, 05:12 PM
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HA!

Will do, so a bigger hammer is the way to go? Where is that mini sledge......hmmmmm.

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It is tough - keep doing more of what you have been. I try to catch an edge of the lip and beat the f*cker in.

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post Dec 14 2018, 07:12 PM
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Dead blow hammer. Get one at Harbor Freight
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:17 PM
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Silly question: Have you taken the front shift rod out first?

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post Dec 14 2018, 07:28 PM
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:44 PM
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Can't speak for the 914rubber part, but I just installed a NOS genuine bushing in my build last week. I just popped it in by hand. Took a good bit of pressure but no tools and it took only a few seconds. Shift rod was out, of course.
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post Dec 14 2018, 08:26 PM
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A little silicone grease helps also.
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post Dec 14 2018, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(DickSteinkamp @ Dec 14 2018, 06:26 PM) *

A little silicone grease helps also.

No Hammer (tho I did try the same thing at first) Try a bolt, 2 large washers, and a nut. Then you can fish the bolt and washer out of the tunnel from the inspection cover inside the car on top of the tunnel.


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post Dec 15 2018, 09:57 AM
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RIX 914 Parts bushings are easiest to install.
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post Dec 15 2018, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Dec 14 2018, 08:17 PM) *

Silly question: Have you taken the front shift rod out first?

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or +2

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post Dec 15 2018, 11:13 AM
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The tangerine racing bushing/setup is another great option. And it doesn’t require removing the front shift rod. You may have to grind down the coupler by a mm or so, but it’s a 3 hole and pop rivet install...
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post Dec 15 2018, 12:48 PM
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The only firewall bushings I use.
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post Dec 15 2018, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 16 2018, 07:48 AM) *

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The only firewall bushings I use.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I fitted a genuine one that came with my car ,they are still loose when they are in otherwise I guess they would never go in ?,the Tangerine design cures that problem and others....its just a better design,worth the price and you can rebuild them.
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post Dec 15 2018, 05:26 PM
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Er,,,,ah,,,,hmmm,,,,,,No I did not.

My initial thought was: 'Just plug this guy right in using the shaft as a guide!

When I read your note Dave: Dawn Broke across my Marble Head! Of course the shaft is keeping the bushing from compressing!!!!!! UGH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

So I took the shaft our, cleaned it and put the bushing in using the bolt method. After I did it wrong a few times I got a much larger bolt, some fender washers and then cranked it in. Total time spent on this? 5 hours. Next time I will be able to do it in 1 hour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Thank you Dave and Team 914,

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Silly question: Have you taken the front shift rod out first?

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post Dec 16 2018, 08:04 AM
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Glad you got it sorted, and very common thing to get tripped up on.

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post Dec 16 2018, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Dec 16 2018, 09:04 AM) *

Glad you got it sorted, and very common thing to get tripped up on.



UPDATE II

woke up, jumped into my greasy clothes and went to re-install the shift linkage.

OK,,,,,,,,easy,,,,, push the shift rod back into the bushing......HHHHmmmm, a bit tight, put some grease on everything and pushed again and THE BUSHING POPPED OUT!

Well, I took a look at the bushing and two of the 6 compression fingers were a bit deformed. Most likely from my using the brute force hammer technique.

I took a look at other vendors but i believe that the 914R guys have a good solution. I will post a how-to as to this particular bushing when i get the new one (I ordered 2, but you knew that) and use my method of sure-fire installation honed after 6+ hours of working this problem.....

By the way, everything takes me 2-3X longer, no lift just short jack stands.....sigh.

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I also went with Chris Foley's (Tangering Racing) spherical firewall shift bushing, as I had no other good options. A previous owner had converted a 75 to a tail-shift transaxle (yep) with an early shift lever and rods, and riveted the early oval transfer console to the firewall.

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When I removed the console, I found the hole so buggered-up that I would have had to cut out a section of the firewall and repair it with a section from a late donor car.
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