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OT - Tear this car apart, looking to buy it long distance 2009 GTI |
seanery |
Dec 26 2018, 02:23 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I'm considering buying this car, you may recall that this is the 2nd GTI I've been looking at. The first one has some issues that the seller is trying to get sorted. I found this one, same price, looks to be in nice condition.
Find as much as you can wrong with it, please. I didn't see any major flaws on the exterior, but I did see that both front doors' door cards need some love, the fabric is coming off them. Also, the shifter knob needs replaced. From my previous query, I know that I need to look out for chain tensioner and water pump issues. What else? I know it's no 914, but I also know that a lot of us Porsche guys have/had many VWs as well! 2009 GTI Tornado Red 92xxx miles - Dealer's Website 2009 Tornado Red GTI Carfax - CARFAX Website CARFAX is also available as a pdf download. Red_GTI_Ft_Myers.pdf ( 499.93k ) Number of downloads: 56 - CARFAX Download |
914forme |
Dec 26 2018, 02:27 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) its arrest me red
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seanery |
Dec 26 2018, 02:30 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
LOL, it is, but I haven't been arrested, and at 50, maybe its time! |
914forme |
Dec 26 2018, 03:20 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I like it, but the stuff that might be wrong you never see it. I purchase mainly used cars, and I presume that I have to do all the maintenance on it when I get them. So unless you have a trusted mechanic that did the work, then I don't even trust the stealership for any service. And I know mechanics at the dealership.
I go and do it all, change all the fluids, and anything else I might need to change, and if it is close I change the timing belts, etc..... Clutches would be the big ? facto.r On this one the 6 speeds have issues with the clutch slave cylinders. So you need to change the fluids on the brake / clutch system at regular intervals. It is also a plastic part so ECS tuning makes an Aluminum replacement part. Also with the oil filter housing, lots of little details that might need to be worked on. Our EOS also needed coil replacement, as one was bad, so I did all 4. If you do all your own work it is not to bad cost wise, if you have to pay a mechanic, it adds up fast. You will want a VagCom also, as they're are lots of little tweaks that the Vag makes easy to do. |
914forme |
Dec 26 2018, 03:26 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
After I got past the initial refresh to get it all back into proper order our EOS same engine and trans has been rock solid.
Only issue on that car is the passenger side airbag on the seat. Wiring connectors never work right, and even the repair fails, and the dealership will flat out tell you it might work. |
beech4rd |
Dec 26 2018, 04:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 10-January 07 From: Highwoods, Saugerties, NY Member No.: 7,445 Region Association: North East States |
Most, if not all, reputable dealerships offer extended warranties. Buy one, it's insurance against whatever the previous owners might have done, or not done, to the car. Anf they're great cars.
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seanery |
Dec 26 2018, 05:35 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Pretty good advice, so far Stephen & Chris.
I do plan on fluids right away, and was going to have my local German car shop check the tensioner and water pump. If the tensioner isn''t the latest revision, then it would be replaced. Probably leave the water pump alone if it doesn't show any signs of leaking. I haven't priced a clutch, hopefully its not too bad if necessary. I'm really not too scared, as long as there are no lies about the car. CarFax seems fine, no accidents reported is always a plus. |
tmessenger |
Dec 26 2018, 05:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 6-December 18 From: Iowa Member No.: 22,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I bought a car sight unseen last year just from photos (with 110K miles) and had it shipped. I ran a carfax on it I think it was $40 for the report. The carfax showed really good maintenance records, a recent clutch job, new exhaust, recent brake service, and no accidents. This gave me the confidence to do the deal and it turned out to be a good one at a good price. Well worth the $40 fee to get the history on the car upfront.
Tim |
seanery |
Dec 26 2018, 06:01 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Tim,
I've got the CarFax. It reads pretty well, and is attached on the original post. But...I bought the CarFax on the last 2009 GTI, and it read better- 70k miles, 1 owner, but it wouldn't stay running, had a few more dents than shown in pics, dead battery, broken mirror...just a lack of any detail from the seller. They're working on getting it right, but my faith is poor. |
914forme |
Dec 26 2018, 07:06 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
We bought a brand new VW Fox back in 1990 it was a 1988, sat on the dealers lot for 2 years moved to the back of the lot. It had lots of issues, broken mirror was one of them. Got the car for a steal, and went to a junk yard and got a mirror, lol, I would not be worried about a mirror, or minor dents. I would be worried if it was in the dealership every other week for some history issue.
We have a Ford tall transit at work that has been in the dealership for the last 9 months off and on. We have had it for 18 months. I would not want to purchase that one if they paid me to take it. |
Chris914n6 |
Dec 26 2018, 07:13 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,302 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have an 06, FSI motor.
The door panel is common, wasn't hard to take apart and reglue. The soft touch rubber coating on the handles also wears off, around $30 each for new. Shifter same problem. Expensive from the factory but there are a few chinese replacements available. In fact, I found alot of VW plastic parts are made in China. There are some really nice factory fit Android head units out, 7" 8" even 9". The seating position is kinda funky. If you haven't yet spend some time driving. |
seanery |
Dec 26 2018, 07:18 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I've had a MKII GTI, my sis has a '16 GLI, and had a '13 before that. She's had a couple Cabriolets and I had an '83 in high school and then there was the stray '80 pickup I had in the early 90s.
Would the seating position relate to any of those? The only one of those that was tough for me was the pickup. |
Chris914n6 |
Dec 27 2018, 06:13 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,302 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Probably like the GLI, butt low knees high. It's more pronounced than any other car I've sat in.
MK6 is essentially a MK5. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-431-1545956027.1.jpg) |
SirAndy |
Dec 27 2018, 06:25 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,602 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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tomh |
Dec 27 2018, 09:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 322 Joined: 28-February 10 From: san jose Member No.: 11,412 Region Association: None |
Why would you want a car that you have to put water in?
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seanery |
Dec 28 2018, 12:57 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
@SirAndy We had a MKI when I first started driving. I loved that car! I learned to drive a stick with it. Dad took me to a hill and made me go up and down without using the brakes, teaching me how to find the friction point.
@Chris914n6 I believe they are the same seats. I like the position, so it shouldn't be a problem for me! =) |
thelogo |
Dec 28 2018, 05:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Is this a turbo or inline 5 cyclinder car .and is it just me or are these
The worlds crappy est guages on here . Id stay away from forced induction if i could . But can i ask why a rabbit /golf And not this https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/f...6774314330.html . Which im debating buying sight unseen also , if only it was a true manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
Front yard mechanic |
Dec 28 2018, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,153 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
Another tartan turd (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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SirAndy |
Dec 28 2018, 11:43 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,602 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Why would you want a car that you have to put water in? Because he's tired of driving a car that only has water in it when it rains? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
seanery |
Dec 28 2018, 05:04 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
That's a pretty nice looking car. I like 'em, and have thought about a TT coupe. But they all seem totally ragged out. The one you're looking at looks good in the pics, but I'd be interested to see if its as presented.
I need a car that's a little more versatile than a TT, however. And, yes, those are all 2.0 Turbo cars. I'd forgotten how much I like driving the small turbos. Uber-tuneable and just a blast to drive! Is this a turbo or inline 5 cyclinder car .and is it just me or are these The worlds crappy est guages on here . Id stay away from forced induction if i could . But can i ask why a rabbit /golf And not this https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/f...6774314330.html . Which im debating buying sight unseen also , if only it was a true manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
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