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> Best rear wheel/stub axle bearing, Bearing renew.
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post Jan 8 2019, 12:39 PM
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What is recommended choice here for trailing arm rear wheel/stub axle bearing - there are two available at Pelican Parts: FAG @ $37.50 with four star rating and SKF @ $75.00 with three star rating?
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post Jan 8 2019, 12:55 PM
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We usually buy the FAG bearings and have good luck.
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post Jan 8 2019, 12:59 PM
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Based on a recent post, you should open up whatever bearings you get and re-pack them. The poster found one of the two they ordered had just about zero grease in it at all...

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post Jan 8 2019, 01:12 PM
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FAG... not that there's anything wrong with that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gayfight.gif)
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post Jan 8 2019, 01:30 PM
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Both FAG & SKF used to be considered good products, but that could've changed if production has moved out of Germany/Euro-Zone for either. Then there's the obvious price difference.

Read the recent customer reviews in the past few years from the bottom/lowest ratings, & judge whether the reviews are based on factual problems, concerns over high price vs. lower (SKF), lack of grease packing (while a QC issue or perhaps they got hot & bled the grease out, & may not affect part & component quality), or other things to be concerned about - vs. people bad mouthing, unhappy about the expense (SKF), or just don't know what they're talking about BS.

The top ratings tend not to tell you much info-wise, but help judge the overall rating number/stars.

FWIW - I've had both in my 914, but my long time mechanic/tech Hans used to prefer the SKF, but has said that FAG is good too more recently (& he's been factory trained on 914s since the start in 1969).

As noted above - these parts could've sat on shelves for years, so check that they're properly grease packed or repack them.

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post Jan 8 2019, 03:29 PM
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Thanks for all of your advice - FAG it is.
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post Jan 8 2019, 03:31 PM
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fag or skf


QUOTE(914Toy @ Jan 8 2019, 11:39 AM) *

What is recommended choice here for trailing arm rear wheel/stub axle bearing - there are two available at Pelican Parts: FAG @ $37.50 with four star rating and SKF @ $75.00 with three star rating?
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post Jan 8 2019, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jan 8 2019, 11:59 AM) *

Based on a recent post, you should open up whatever bearings you get and re-pack them. The poster found one of the two they ordered had just about zero grease in it at all...

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I think Dave might be talking about me. Here's my post on repacking new FAG bearings just a couple days ago. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2679355 Can't speak for SKF but would like to see someone pop a couple open and show what is inside.

and a couple YT vids:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A5kf5pXl4w



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9P1R2clGAU
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post Jan 8 2019, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jan 8 2019, 12:30 PM) *

Both FAG & SKF used to be considered good products, but that could've changed if production has moved out of Germany/Euro-Zone for either. Then there's the obvious price difference.


FAG are now made in Slovakia so take that as you may. I installed a new SKF bearing in my steering rack this weekend (not a wheel bearing), and it was stamped "made in France." Don't know if all of their bearings come out of France now, just passing along what I learned.
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post Jan 8 2019, 05:35 PM
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Years back I did a comparison on the rear bearings. they are NOT made the same as the original ones. Internal races are NOT as thick as the originals and the bearings are smaller. Bruce Stone and I talked about this a couple of weeks ago. He did all sorts of measurements on the bearings. Not sure of his conclusions Maybe he will chime in.
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post Jan 8 2019, 07:19 PM
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To the manufacturer all that matters is the overall dimensions and the quality standards. Different factory, different country they might use a different size ball bearing.
This is still a common bearing, used on 911, 912 to '73, '85-06 318-328 BMW and others.

SKF France is/was a common OE bearing supplier for VW.
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post Jan 16 2019, 01:21 PM
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What is DIY method for inserting bearing into trailing arm?
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post Jan 16 2019, 01:30 PM
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What is DIY method for inserting bearing into trailing arm?

Clean up the area good, toss the bearing in the freezer overnight and it will likely slip in.
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post Jan 16 2019, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(914Toy @ Jan 16 2019, 02:21 PM) *

What is DIY method for inserting bearing into trailing arm?

Clean up the area good, toss the bearing in the freezer overnight and it will likely slip in.

I must be doing something wrong, as it's never been that easy for me. I've only done it twice -- once with a press, and once with a BFH (very carefully, of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). Both times it was somewhat of a challenge, even with frozen bearings. That interference fit is pretty tight (at least in my case).
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post Jan 16 2019, 02:19 PM
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Thanks for advice - will report back.
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post Jan 16 2019, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jan 16 2019, 02:38 PM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 16 2019, 02:30 PM) *

QUOTE(914Toy @ Jan 16 2019, 02:21 PM) *

What is DIY method for inserting bearing into trailing arm?

Clean up the area good, toss the bearing in the freezer overnight and it will likely slip in.

I must be doing something wrong, as it's never been that easy for me. I've only done it twice -- once with a press, and once with a BFH (very carefully, of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). Both times it was somewhat of a challenge, even with frozen bearings. That interference fit is pretty tight (at least in my case).

We do a lot of them at the shop and it's 50/50. I had to tell some of the guys about freezing the bearings, most just use a press to drive them home.
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post Jan 16 2019, 03:34 PM
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How cold is your freezer? I have one that runs about -30 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
As long as it's been in say 12 hours and the hole is well cleaned out I don't have much issue. Maye some light tapping with a drift or I jury rig a length of threaded rod to pull it in.

but yeh... you're always going to run into that boitch, guess I've been lucky, I should be, because I've ran into my fair share of fuchery with other poop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 16 2019, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 16 2019, 04:34 PM) *

How cold is your freezer? I have one that runs about -30 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Apparently not Ontario cold! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 16 2019, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 16 2019, 04:34 PM) *

How cold is your freezer? I have one that runs about -30 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Apparently not Ontario cold! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Coldest day I've seen here was -35...the day I moved into this house. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Normal temps are around 15-32F this time of year, I don't care as my shop has good heat.
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post Jan 16 2019, 09:15 PM
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I use a threaded rod with sockets/washers/etc. to install on the car.

I use a big Snap-On slide hammer to remove.

Arms off the car: goes in the press.
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