Price check on original 1970 914-6 GT |
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Price check on original 1970 914-6 GT |
ConeDodger |
Jan 10 2019, 03:27 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,558 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
The most expensive roller? ? Around i know a 914 with solid bones is Hard to come by . Some one should buy it and put a big /4 in it So the rear decal can read 914/6 /4 I know this is meant as humor but the car has no four mounts if it’s a six so... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
914forme |
Jan 10 2019, 04:01 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I have seen that car, and well it is a racer, and the pictures make it look really good. It ran HSR or SVRA events timing is becoming a blur as to which sanctioning body it was. This was back in the early 90s so lots of stuff gone and forgotten from then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I don't remember being impressed with what I saw, but then Brumos was also dragging both 59s Its around the time as they just finished the restoration of the original, and still had the clone onsite also. To age it even more Bob was still living and was passing out cans of Haywood Cola. |
sixnotfour |
Jan 10 2019, 04:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Isnt that John Forbes jacking it up...black forest racing should know all about it.. race cars are race cars ,,could be nice could be just legal...way more pics needed
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gms |
Jan 10 2019, 04:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,694 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It probably isn't a factory GT but without the VIN we don't know.
As others have mentioned it does not appear to have GT parts. I say $20K-$25K without drivetrain. |
Mr.914-6GT |
Jan 10 2019, 08:30 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 10-January 19 From: usa Member No.: 22,793 Region Association: None |
Ok Gunther lets get you straitened out here. Between the silliness, knit picking and people that don’t read threads completely let me get you to your answer.
914-6s that have low miles and are original are going for $100,000.00 plus. Those that have had their floor pans replaced, rust repairs or other non original parts are selling around $80,000.00 and less. Since your 6 has a good chassis without any other mods other than the flairs and oil cooler cutout,( unlike a tube frame car ) lets do the math and start with the $80k. Subtract $20k for a 2 liter 6 engine ( the ones we used throw away when they wore out, for a more powerful 911 engine back in the day). Subtract $10k to return to stock fenders and paint. Fenders and body parts are cheap and most of the cost is in labor and paint. Subtract $5k for new interior and any other small insularly parts. The suspension is a wash. You can sell the RSR struts, brakes, and wheels for a stock suspension and wheels. $80k – $20k – $10 -$5k = $45k. These numbers are an approximation, but this should get you in the ball park. GLWTS |
mepstein |
Jan 10 2019, 08:57 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,238 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ok Gunther lets get you straitened out here. Between the silliness, knit picking and people that don’t read threads completely let me get you to your answer. 914-6s that have low miles and are original are going for $100,000.00 plus. Those that have had their floor pans replaced, rust repairs or other non original parts are selling around $80,000.00 and less. Since your 6 has a good chassis without any other mods other than the flairs and oil cooler cutout,( unlike the tube frame yellow car above) lets do the math and start with the $80k. Subtract $20k for a 2 liter 6 engine ( the ones we used throw away when they wore out, for a more powerful 911 engine back in the day). Subtract $10k to return to stock fenders and paint. Fenders and body parts are cheap and most of the cost is in labor and paint. Subtract $5k for new interior and any other small insularly parts. The suspension is a wash. You can sell the RSR struts, brakes, and wheels for a stock suspension and wheels. $80k – $20k – $10 -$5k = $45k. These numbers are an approximation, but this should get you in the ball park. GLWTS LOL! sort of what I did without the detailed explanation. Great minds... |
Mr.914-6GT |
Jan 10 2019, 09:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 10-January 19 From: usa Member No.: 22,793 Region Association: None |
Ok Gunther lets get you straitened out here. Between the silliness, knit picking and people that don’t read threads completely let me get you to your answer. 914-6s that have low miles and are original are going for $100,000.00 plus. Those that have had their floor pans replaced, rust repairs or other non original parts are selling around $80,000.00 and less. Since your 6 has a good chassis without any other mods other than the flairs and oil cooler cutout,( unlike the tube frame yellow car above) lets do the math and start with the $80k. Subtract $20k for a 2 liter 6 engine ( the ones we used throw away when they wore out, for a more powerful 911 engine back in the day). Subtract $10k to return to stock fenders and paint. Fenders and body parts are cheap and most of the cost is in labor and paint. Subtract $5k for new interior and any other small insularly parts. The suspension is a wash. You can sell the RSR struts, brakes, and wheels for a stock suspension and wheels. $80k – $20k – $10 -$5k = $45k. These numbers are an approximation, but this should get you in the ball park. GLWTS LOL! sort of what I did without the detailed explanation. Great minds... I wrote it because most people need a detailed explanation on this site. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Jan 11 2019, 07:21 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,060 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
10k for body work and paint? Not real world numbers. The numbers posted are for an owner with a well provisioned shop/facility and that has a vast skill set. An enthusiast learning the ropes? Double or triple the $ and years and years. Look at the 100k+, after tax dollars, all in cash projects that grace the pages here for years.
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GregAmy |
Jan 11 2019, 08:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,267 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
914-6s that have low miles and are original are going for $100,000.00 plus. Those that have had their floor pans replaced, rust repairs or other non original parts are selling around $80,000.00 and less. Since your 6 has a good chassis without any other mods other than the flairs and oil cooler cutout,( unlike a tube frame car ) lets do the math and start with the $80k. My first reaction was "ain't no effin way an old worn-out race car with no provenance is going to go for $80k, no matter how impressive the restoration" but I've seen stupider things happen in this market. But I'd suggest your starting point for a fully-restored /6 race car with no provenance is likely 1/2 to 2/3 that. But again, "stupider things"... For the purposes of insurance, I value my '74 2L-4 race car at half the value of my '74 2L-4 street car. |
sixnotfour |
Jan 11 2019, 09:59 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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mountainroads |
Jan 11 2019, 12:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
10k for body work and paint? Not real world numbers. The numbers posted are for an owner with a well provisioned shop/facility and that has a vast skill set. An enthusiast learning the ropes? Double or triple the $ and years and years. Look at the 100k+, after tax dollars, all in cash projects that grace the pages here for years. Unfortunately, I have to agree with this since I fall in the "enthusiast learning the ropes" category, and have personal hard-lesson experience. It's not hard to drop $10k for a top level interior guy and $30K for minimal body work and top-tier paint work. Not bragging and not confessing. Just the facts. I tell people: I don't do it because it makes sense. I do it because the results make me smile. - MR |
sixnotfour |
Jan 11 2019, 12:48 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Is John Forbes the current owner ??
http://blackforestracing.com/pictures/inde...Wide-Body-914-6 Attached image(s) |
mepstein |
Jan 11 2019, 12:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,238 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If he is the owner, he will know what it’s worth. John knows 914’s.
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brant |
Jan 11 2019, 01:58 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,612 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
This whole thread is fishy....
scam like... if John is the owner, who is the person starting this thread? |
brant |
Jan 11 2019, 01:59 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,612 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I wrote it because most people need a detailed explanation on this site. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) sarcasm I hope. there are many many people on this list that intimately know the details and answers already. |
SirAndy |
Jan 11 2019, 02:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,606 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
This whole thread is fishy.... scam like... if John is the owner, who is the person starting this thread? @brant "Gunther" has a Back Forest Racing email address and "Mr.914-6GT" who signed up just to post here in this thread also just happens to be using the same IP address as "Gunther" so my best guess is that both are posting from the Back Forest Racing office. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
brant |
Jan 11 2019, 02:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,612 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
This whole thread is fishy.... scam like... if John is the owner, who is the person starting this thread? @brant "Gunther" has a Back Forest Racing email address and "Mr.914-6GT" who signed up just to post here in this thread also just happens to be using the same IP address as "Gunther" so my best guess is that both are posting from the Back Forest Racing office. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) ok... less fishy... still a weird thread? |
sixnotfour |
Jan 11 2019, 02:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Isnt that John Forbes jacking it up...black forest racing should know all about it.. race cars are race cars ,,could be nice could be just legal...way more pics needed strange strategy |
mepstein |
Jan 11 2019, 02:35 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,238 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This whole thread is fishy.... scam like... if John is the owner, who is the person starting this thread? @brant "Gunther" has a Back Forest Racing email address and "Mr.914-6GT" who signed up just to post here in this thread also just happens to be using the same IP address as "Gunther" so my best guess is that both are posting from the Back Forest Racing office. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) can't hide on the net. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Ed_Turbo |
Jan 11 2019, 03:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, I already knew something was not right when you add original 914-6 GT and rust free in the same sentence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Good project roller, but I don’t do business with folks trying to make a quick buck.
I feel like they are not honest people misleading others by using these websites to carry their objective. Just my opinion, but I know I am not the only one who feels that way. - Your buddy Big Ed |
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