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> Custom Trailing Arms, A Progress Thread
andys
post Jun 20 2005, 01:52 PM
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Though it about time I start a progress thread on some custom trailing arms I am designing and fabricating.

First, a little background: My car is a planned LS1 V8 conversion that will use an Audi/Getrag 6 speed transaxle (which I already have). From this, two things result; 1. The drive flanges are placed wider then on the 914, and are assymetric to the centerline. 2. The drive flanges will require adapters, as the bolt pattern is outside of the CV. The 911 axles I intend on using are shorter than the 914, but not enough to provide room for the flange adapters. The motor/transaxle will be placed off-center in order to get symmetry of the drive flanges.

By fabricating the trailing arms, I can accomplish a couple of things. First, I can position the bearing carrier further outboard to get the additional space for the flange adapters. This will also help keep wheel spacers from being so thick. Second, I can use the larger (+5mm dia and 5mm wider) late model 911 bearings, along with the late 911 wheel drive flanges. Third, I can adapt any brake caliper I want, which will be an '89 Carrera to start with since I already have it. It is not my first choice (heavy!!), but it will do for now. I will employ the Wilwood mechanical spot caliper for the parking brake. Fourth, this custom fabrication allows me to create a structural part suitable for V8 power, and yet meet a target weight comparable to a stock trailing arm. Fifth, I can make provision for the pivot shaft bearing of choice. Though I considered the needle bearing setup, I will start off with Weltmeister Polygraphites' (I do have some other polyurethane material that I may try later as well).

So why go through all the trouble? Because I can, is my best answer. Being an engineer, I just can't resist! Also, I have the equipment to do all the machining and welding. Now having said that, I don't think I would start a project like this again, considering all the research, design, fabrication, etc.....takes waaay too much time; time I don't really have.

Ok, enough of all that! I'm sure you'd rather see the pic's, then read all the blather......

This pic is of some of the parts I've made up so far; Pivot shaft housing, pivot shaft bushings to be welded in, bearing carrier, caliper mount, and the large axle tube. I'll add more parts as we go along:


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andys   Custom Trailing Arms   Jun 20 2005, 01:52 PM
andys   Close up   Jun 20 2005, 01:54 PM
andys   Brake caliper weld fixture   Jun 20 2005, 01:55 PM
andys   Ooops, that's the trailing arm weld fixture. ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:56 PM
andys   Now, the brake caliper weld fixture with parts in ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:56 PM
andys   Another shot.   Jun 20 2005, 01:57 PM
andys   The bearing carrier, fits late 911 bearing   Jun 20 2005, 01:59 PM
Mueller   damn andy...that looks great <...   Jun 20 2005, 02:11 PM
Travis Neff   I dunno what is cooler, the fixture or the trailin...   Jun 20 2005, 02:13 PM
ClayPerrine   You should consider making the mounting tabs and f...   Jun 20 2005, 02:25 PM
Jeroen   that's friggin' awesome!!!   Jun 20 2005, 02:26 PM
nocones   So what are you saying here Andy, ...now that you...   Jun 20 2005, 02:36 PM
airsix     Jun 20 2005, 03:04 PM
andys     Jun 20 2005, 03:11 PM
Jeroen   maybe a little late, but how about one of those tr...   Jun 20 2005, 03:13 PM
ClayPerrine     Jun 20 2005, 03:15 PM
spare time toys   You do know some one will see this and rip off you...   Jun 20 2005, 03:41 PM
sixnotfour   Didn't that Brad R. guy post a picture of a un...   Jun 20 2005, 04:15 PM
Brett W   Parts look great. Aren't CNC machines great. ...   Jun 20 2005, 04:57 PM
Terryst1   Hi Andy: I was VERY interested when reading about...   Jun 20 2005, 05:11 PM
andys   *You do know some one will see this and rip off yo...   Jun 20 2005, 05:16 PM
SpecialK   I've seen a lot of assembly/mock-up jigs worki...   Jun 20 2005, 05:22 PM
neo914-6   ...   Jun 20 2005, 06:22 PM
andys   Quick update......left side nearly complete. And...   Jul 13 2005, 10:30 AM
1bad914   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jul 13 2005, 10:44 AM
aircooledboy   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jul 13 2005, 10:48 AM
jwalters   DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jul 13 2005, 12:47 PM
michelko   i am speechless http://www.9...   Jul 13 2005, 01:49 PM
airsix   How's the weight compared to stock? I wonder i...   Jul 13 2005, 02:16 PM
andys     Jul 13 2005, 03:34 PM
SpecialK   You've got some mad design/fabrication skills ...   Jul 13 2005, 04:35 PM
Terryst1   Hey 914ners: Andy will probably get mad, but I...   Jul 13 2005, 04:51 PM
SpecialK   ...   Jul 13 2005, 04:58 PM
tat2dphreak   ...   Jul 13 2005, 05:19 PM
Brad Roberts   Cool. Yes. I have/had jigs/fixtures for a 5 inch ...   Jul 13 2005, 08:05 PM
Verruckt   So when are these going to be available for sale, ...   Jul 14 2005, 05:48 AM
redshift   Unreal work, fantastic! M   Jul 14 2005, 06:08 AM
RON S.     Jul 14 2005, 07:42 AM
andys     Jul 14 2005, 12:03 PM
Mueller     Jul 14 2005, 12:51 PM
andys   The latest pic's to update my progress. The tr...   Sep 12 2005, 12:31 PM
andys   Don't ask me why I chose blue. It photographs ...   Sep 12 2005, 12:34 PM
andys   Wilwood mechanical spot caliper. I designed the pa...   Sep 12 2005, 12:37 PM
Travis Neff   That is trick!   Sep 12 2005, 12:39 PM
tat2dphreak   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Sep 12 2005, 12:41 PM
andys   BTW, the heavy P-brake return spring is a must, ot...   Sep 12 2005, 12:41 PM
Aaron Cox   dude!!! http://...   Sep 12 2005, 01:29 PM
Andyrew   when are they going in production!!! ...   Sep 12 2005, 02:03 PM
914MF   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Sep 12 2005, 02:35 PM
Britain Smith   Those look awesome. However, what is the advantag...   Sep 12 2005, 03:52 PM
Aaron Cox     Sep 20 2005, 11:32 AM
wbergtho   I had Randy Beck in Upland, Ca fabricate my rear t...   Oct 31 2005, 01:38 AM
redshift   Ok Andy, you got the job. Starts tomorrow, $9...   Oct 31 2005, 01:48 AM
Verruckt   Andys Eagerly awaiting the day when you start a n...   Oct 31 2005, 05:42 AM
Brando   Hot damn Andy, that's some marvelous work.   Oct 31 2005, 01:11 PM
andys   ...   Oct 31 2005, 02:44 PM
Aaron Cox     Oct 31 2005, 02:48 PM


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