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> Uneven tire to fender clearance from side to side
Tdskip
post Jan 18 2019, 12:14 PM
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Good morning. There is a bright orange yellow orb in the sky over Southern California right now. Quite welcome to see it, but I digress.

The 1974 Arizona car has uneven tire to fender clearance from side to side. The tires are the same make and size, it has the same rims on it, but I have about one fingers worth of clearance on the driver side to the tire wall but basically none on the passenger side.

I don’t have a history on the car but the tub is straight and does not evidence any accidents. I haven’t put the car up on a rack to check the alignment but it doesn’t look like the rear camber is noticeably different from side to side.

Any ideas to share? Thanks!
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post Jan 18 2019, 12:20 PM
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Typical, between camber differences and incorrect offset tires, (many stick out emphasizing the fender differences, and the fact that the bodies vary since they are made by vw, it is not uncommon to see one tire closer than another, usually the right one is closer than the left

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Good morning. There is a bright orange yellow orb in the sky over Southern California right now. Quite welcome to see it, but I digress.

The 1974 Arizona car has uneven tire to fender clearance from side to side. The tires are the same make and size, it has the same rims on it, but I have about one fingers worth of clearance on the driver side to the tire wall but basically none on the passenger side.

I don’t have a history on the car but the tub is straight and does not evidence any accidents. I haven’t put the car up on a rack to check the alignment but it doesn’t look like the rear camber is noticeably different from side to side.

Any ideas to share? Thanks!
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post Jan 18 2019, 12:34 PM
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Phew!

Thanks Doc, er George! Have a great weekend
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post Jan 18 2019, 12:44 PM
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maybe something to check, since car history is not available, is see if the fenders were adjusted for wider tires at some point. I installed wider track tires on my car and had to use a broom stick handle to gain some room. I just rolled the handle between the tire and fender to roll the inner lip up. maybe this was done on one or both sides?
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post Jan 18 2019, 12:47 PM
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Yes, probably more typical than finding one that's perfect side to side
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:20 PM
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Usually the drivers side rear is tighter than the passenger side
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:20 PM
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While there may be small variations from the factory, a whole finger width is concerning.

A few things to check:

- Make sure the fenders aren't dented
- Make sure the inside fender lips are the same, one could be rolled while the other isn't
- The alignment could be off from side to side. Check the camber on each side.
- Trailing arm bushings shot
- The trailing arm(s) could be bent. Seen this before. Check for unequal amounts of alignment shims side to side.
- Rust in the suspension console or cracked suspension console, both of which will allow the trailing arm to move around.
- Bent wheel, loose lug nuts or lose wheel bearing

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post Jan 18 2019, 01:47 PM
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Usually the drivers side rear is tighter than the passenger side


Mine have been opposite,,pass side tight.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:50 PM
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Thanks for all of the responses, including @SirAndy who replied on my duplicate post.

The driver side fender has been rolled, I don’t think the passenger side has. Let me double check that and then get the car up in the air and see what I find. I was going to rebuild the front and rear suspension on this car anyway so thanks to whatever ones posted I will lower my heart rate and chill out until all that is done.

If I still have an issue after all of that then I reserve the right to freak out, ha.

Thanks again for all of the great information and fast response
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:59 PM
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and I bet that you have aftermarket wheels on you car like empi or riviera


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Thanks for all of the responses, including @SirAndy who replied on my duplicate post.

The driver side fender has been rolled, I don’t think the passenger side has. Let me double check that and then get the car up in the air and see what I find. I was going to rebuild the front and rear suspension on this car anyway so thanks to whatever ones posted I will lower my heart rate and chill out until all that is done.

If I still have an issue after all of that then I reserve the right to freak out, ha.

Thanks again for all of the great information and fast response
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post Jan 18 2019, 02:01 PM
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One thing that is not mentioned is worn trailing arm bushings.

Usually they wear most on the drivers side.

Check for this by jacking the car up...grab the (rear) wheel at the 3 and 9 oclock position and check for play.
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post Jan 18 2019, 03:00 PM
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I just shot the rear body on my v8 car and the numbers are close to the same without the rear suspension being in the body. Now this car had 7 on it before and someone flattened the area so the tire would not scrape. Not sure if this helps but it was close by and easy for me to do.


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post Jan 18 2019, 03:09 PM
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and I bet that you have aftermarket wheels on you car like empi or riviera



Yep - American Racing


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post Jan 18 2019, 03:17 PM
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post Jan 18 2019, 03:18 PM
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post Jan 18 2019, 04:05 PM
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Interesting way of strapping down your vehicle.
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post Jan 18 2019, 04:19 PM
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yup, vw beetle offset would fit perfectly on a car with add on fenders
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and I bet that you have aftermarket wheels on you car like empi or riviera



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post Jan 18 2019, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(wes @ Jan 18 2019, 05:05 PM) *

Interesting way of strapping down your vehicle.


Hi. Windshield and targa top wete only loose fitted, the gentleman who delivered it was very diligent (and this my be after some of the straps were removed.
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post Jan 18 2019, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jan 18 2019, 02:23 PM) *

QUOTE(wes @ Jan 18 2019, 05:05 PM) *

Interesting way of strapping down your vehicle.


Hi. Windshield and targa top wete only loose fitted, the gentleman who delivered it was very diligent (and this my be after some of the straps were removed.


Had a feeling there might be a reason.
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post Jan 18 2019, 08:33 PM
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