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Garage Lighting, Garage Demo - Looking for direction |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 6 2019, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
All Teeners,
I did a search within this list not sure this was covered previously. I am going to demo my garage interior. install lighting, electric, heated floor, the whole deal. My question is what is the direction to go as to the in ceiling lighting? Fluorescent is the path I was heading, though LED is getting better, Any experience with _products_ that are working well for the people in this forum? Thanks! CTC911CTC |
BENBRO02 |
Feb 6 2019, 10:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have 9-8' florescent fixtures that hold 2 bulbs each. They use a lot of electricity so as they burn out I have been replacing the bulbs with 8' leds. They are great! I believe they use 25% of the power and they are brighter. In my opinion florescent lights shouldn't be considered.
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Mayne |
Feb 6 2019, 10:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 28-February 17 From: NM Member No.: 20,880 Region Association: None |
I installed 2 8' LED lights in my 20x24 garage build last year and they're great.
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76-914 |
Feb 6 2019, 10:40 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
LED, LED, LED!
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BPic |
Feb 6 2019, 10:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 5-February 18 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 21,864 Region Association: South East States |
I had florescent and swapped them for LED 4' fixtures from Home Depot. Think they were like $40-50 each. Much brighter, less energy, and lasts longer. I love them.
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mepstein |
Feb 6 2019, 10:43 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,255 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sign up on garagejournal.com
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jkb944t |
Feb 6 2019, 11:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
I replaced all the fluorescent shop lights in my garage last year with the LED shop lights that Lowes had on sale for about $34 for a 48” unit. They were Utilitech Pro Strip Shop Light (Common: 4-ft; Actual: 6.5-in x 48-in) Item #: 595731 | Model #: MXL2006-LED2X24K840
The old fluorescent lights did not work well in the cold and were constantly burning out. The new LED lights are simply amazing giving out much better lighting instantly. I highly recommend them to anyone! Jeff B |
Cairo94507 |
Feb 6 2019, 11:41 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,725 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I installed 2'x2' LED lights in my ceiling. I think I got them for around $65 each shipped, and I have 40 of them. Took some shopping to get that price. Yeah, seems like overkill on paper. In reality, they give me terrific lighting in the garage with no dark spots. I have them split on 3 separate switches so I can get low, med or high levels of light. You will never regret going with more lighting-especially as your eyes get older.
These lights are instant on/off, make no noise and are the equivalent of about 10 watts each in energy if I recall correctly. |
Tom_T |
Feb 6 2019, 11:42 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
An aside while you're doing the demo & picking lighting, is to see if you can get enough vertical clearance to use a 2 or 4 post lift in there too.
since you're demo'ing the the floor & ceiling, you may be able to tweak it to find enough height for the lift now or in the future. So also don't put in too deep of a ceiling & lighting system in there if you do get the height for a lift, & spoil it. You also may have to look at where you place the lights too, in order to stay out from where the lift + car would go up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
Cal |
Feb 6 2019, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
LED works the best and throws plenty of light. I only used (3) 4' LED in my 15' x 40' man-cave that I recently renovated.
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Valy |
Feb 6 2019, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,671 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
LED are the most energy efficient today so no question here.
BUT, make sure that the fixtures you get have replaceable bulbs/tubes. The LEDs themself will last forever but the power regulators inside the bulbs are pretty low quality and burn much faster than the LED itself. If the fixture has the light element built in, you'll be hunting for matching fixtures in few years. |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 6 2019, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
I installed 2'x2' LED lights in my ceiling. I think I got them for around $65 each shipped, and I have 40 of them. Took some shopping to get that price. Yeah, seems like overkill on paper. In reality, they give me terrific lighting in the garage with no dark spots. I have them split on 3 separate switches so I can get low, med or high levels of light. You will never regret going with more lighting-especially as your eyes get older. These lights are instant on/off, make no noise and are the equivalent of about 10 watts each in energy if I recall correctly. At first I saw these as mounted on the garage door - then I rotated the picture. |
KELTY360 |
Feb 6 2019, 12:26 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
LEDs are no doubt superior. Think perimeter for placement. Running lights down the center of a bay is a waste of lumens. If you have appropriate space, you can also install a light at ground level to aid illumination under the car. Another great convenience is a motion sensor light with the sensor aimed at the garage entry. That way you’ll always have light when you enter and leave the room and if your hands are full you won’t have to flip the switch.
Pay close attention to outlets also. Can’t have too many. Consider putting some at ground level. Also, many electricians will run multiple circuits with outlets alternated so you don’t overload when using multiple, large draw tools in the same area. |
windforfun |
Feb 6 2019, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Go with a lower color temperature (in degrees Kelvin). Too much blue makes a car look ugly. IMHO.
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davehg |
Feb 6 2019, 03:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I bought a number of LED shop lights (rectangular) at Costco - they regularly go on sale for $25. You can daisy chain 1-2 of them, and they throw excellent light. I've got 10 of them now and am quite happy at the cost/performance ratio. They are mounted on the ceiling of my shop area which is about 9" high
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1549487690.1.jpg) I have two large adjoining garage bays 30 feet deep with 24 foot ceilings that I am also looking to light, and I will likely need some LED highbays. I've eyed the "Big Ass Lights" which look to be reasonably powerful but add expense. |
Cairo94507 |
Feb 6 2019, 03:33 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,725 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
ctc911ctc - Yeah sorry about that. Those are on the ceiling. I have a 10' ceiling and wish it were 12'. They throw a lot of light and are all perfectly lined up. They are a flush mount and the fixture is at most 3/4" which. The end result was pretty clean.
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Cairo94507 |
Feb 6 2019, 03:33 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,725 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Cal - I love the brick floor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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burton73 |
Feb 6 2019, 03:57 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,510 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
All I can say is our members have some very nice Man Caves.
LED is the way on the lights if you have the extra change. As someone that has had a factory for 40 years, regular fluorescents die too fast. In the long run, you will save plus money you get nice pictures with LED. The price is much better with LEDs now as compared to several years ago. Bob B |
Jamie |
Feb 6 2019, 04:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,025 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
I bought a number of LED shop lights (rectangular) at Costco - they regularly go on sale for $25. You can daisy chain 1-2 of them, and they throw excellent light. I've got 10 of them now and am quite happy at the cost/performance ratio. They are mounted on the ceiling of my shop area which is about 9" high (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1549487690.1.jpg) I have two large adjoining garage bays 30 feet deep with 24 foot ceilings that I am also looking to light, and I will likely need some LED highbays. I've eyed the "Big Ass Lights" which look to be reasonably powerful but add expense. I bought a Big Ass Haiku shop light 2 yrs. ago for the garage/shop, liked it so well I bought another for the woodturning shop area. With 12' ceilings it's like daylight in there now, only bad thing is they show every speck of dirt or cobwebs! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
tmessenger |
Feb 6 2019, 05:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 6-December 18 From: Iowa Member No.: 22,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I've been a mechanical engineer for the commercial building industry for many years so have been designing lighting systems up through first magnetic then electronic ballast fluorescent, then LED's.
IMO there is no comparison LED shop fixtures are directional so do not lose lumens in the fixture housing like fluorescents. Much more efficient with more true foot candles on the workspace. Also just better light quality, you can get LED's in a wide range of kalvin temperatures so if you want to emulate incandescent bulbs get 3000 kalvin or if you want to emulate daylighting get 5000 kalvin. 10 years ago LED's were very spendy now you can get 4' LED shop light a Menards for $17.00 Tim |
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