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> 123 Bluetooth Distributor, How does everyone like theirs?
mobymutt
post Feb 11 2019, 01:52 PM
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I was getting ready to buy a d jet unit. so yes to a group buy


I pm'ed Ed from 123 ignition USA, from last year's thread, about another group buy. I'll let you know if I get a response.


Awesome, thanks!


Ok, new group buy has been set up. I'll start a new thread for it.
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post Feb 12 2019, 05:19 AM
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post Feb 12 2019, 08:52 AM
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I suppose that the djet version with connections for trigger points somehow removes the possibility of having it be programable either through Bluetooth or a PC.

That said I would have liked to be able to program the curves with my djet version.

Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-32.

all of the djet compatible 123 ignition dizzys have around 22 degress advance on the various programs installed instead of the 14-16 deg advance that would be optimal for this cam.

although my old dizzy was no better, I could have had the curves altered.
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post Feb 12 2019, 10:13 AM
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That is a good point. Make sure your cam works with the 123 before buying. Thanks for the heads up. I plan on selecting a cam that is not stock for my D-jet.
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post Feb 12 2019, 04:33 PM
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I'm running stock 1.8 with 40 webers and bluetooth 123. I love it. Easy set up, starts quick and runs beautiful. Running 7 degrees to 28 degres. Waitingfor parts to build my Type 4 Store 2270.
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post Feb 12 2019, 06:30 PM
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Potentially interested in purchase. Please excuse my ignorance, curious of the differences between the 123 unit vs stock with Petronix vs a aftermarket unit from AA? I am no mechanic, or engine guy. Curious to learn. As of now, my current driver is stock 1.8 injected. One project is planned to get a 2056 with Microsquirt. And the last project is planned to potentially to have 2.0 with Weber 40’s. Again please excuse my ignorance.. trying to become more educated with all aspects of these cars...thank you.
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post Feb 12 2019, 06:52 PM
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Potentially interested in purchase. Please excuse my ignorance, curious of the differences between the 123 unit vs stock with Petronix vs a aftermarket unit from AA? I am no mechanic, or engine guy. Curious to learn. As of now, my current driver is stock 1.8 injected. One project is planned to get a 2056 with Microsquirt. And the last project is planned to potentially to have 2.0 with Weber 40’s. Again please excuse my ignorance.. trying to become more educated with all aspects of these cars...thank you.


I can't comment on the Petronix, but vs a stock or aftermarket distributor, the big advantages to 123 for me are:
-fully programmable timing via Bluetooth (on the version I'm getting anyway). Not exactly sure how useful it will be, but it's definitely cool!
-no setting of dwell
-no wear

Parts for my old distributor are almost unavailable, so I think going with the 123 makes the most sense for me. I'm running dual weber 40's.
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post Feb 12 2019, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Feb 12 2019, 06:52 AM) *

I suppose that the djet version with connections for trigger points somehow removes the possibility of having it be programable either through Bluetooth or a PC.

That said I would have liked to be able to program the curves with my djet version.

Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-32.

all of the djet compatible 123 ignition dizzys have around 22 degress advance on the various programs installed instead of the 14-16 deg advance that would be optimal for this cam.

although my old dizzy was no better, I could have had the curves altered.



Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-



At what rpm?
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post Feb 13 2019, 02:41 PM
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Curious. What might be a weakness in the 1-2-3 ? Every distributer I’ve used had a weak point...
Currently i’m Running the Mallory Unilite that I acquired from Tangerine Racing years ago. I improved performance and has only two issues.
1. The 4 cyclinder model is no longer made and parts are NLA
2. The optical sensor is extreamly sensitive to any voltage spike and always results in a complete shutdown until the optical sensor is replaced.

I’m thinking of replacing the Mallory Unilite with a 1-2-3 on my 1975 L-Jet
Now sure which model; I have no Vac port on the new Vanagon TB
Any suggestions will be appreciated plus the Mallory May need s new home


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Oops, a dupe.....
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post Feb 13 2019, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Feb 12 2019, 08:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Feb 12 2019, 06:52 AM) *

I suppose that the djet version with connections for trigger points somehow removes the possibility of having it be programable either through Bluetooth or a PC.

That said I would have liked to be able to program the curves with my djet version.

Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-32.

all of the djet compatible 123 ignition dizzys have around 22 degress advance on the various programs installed instead of the 14-16 deg advance that would be optimal for this cam.

although my old dizzy was no better, I could have had the curves altered.



Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-



At what rpm?


Rpm not stated.

Here > http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...255127&st=0
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Feb 13 2019, 01:24 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ Feb 12 2019, 08:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Feb 12 2019, 06:52 AM) *

I suppose that the djet version with connections for trigger points somehow removes the possibility of having it be programable either through Bluetooth or a PC.

That said I would have liked to be able to program the curves with my djet version.

Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-32.

all of the djet compatible 123 ignition dizzys have around 22 degress advance on the various programs installed instead of the 14-16 deg advance that would be optimal for this cam.

although my old dizzy was no better, I could have had the curves altered.



Running a different cam than stock (Raby 9590) and jake recommends a starting advance of 16 BTDC and full advance of 30-



At what rpm?


Rpm not stated.

Here > http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...255127&st=0



1,000 RPM I read.

From there it is linear.

That cam is a stock EFI cam if I remember.

Edit:

Modified by Jake for stock EFI systems.

So static set at near 14-16* at 1k RPM. What I recall Geoff saying is that this cam with a modified MPS kicks ass. Just idles higher than stock.
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Feb 13 2019, 12:41 PM) *

Curious. What might be a weakness in the 1-2-3 ? Every distributer I’ve used had a weak point...
Currently i’m Running the Mallory Unilite that I acquired from Tangerine Racing years ago. I improved performance and has only two issues.
1. The 4 cyclinder model is no longer made and parts are NLA
2. The optical sensor is extreamly sensitive to any voltage spike and always results in a complete shutdown until the optical sensor is replaced.

I’m thinking of replacing the Mallory Unilite with a 1-2-3 on my 1975 L-Jet
Now sure which model; I have no Vac port on the new Vanagon TB
Any suggestions will be appreciated plus the Mallory May need s new home






Jim...I'd pull the trigger with this.
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post Feb 14 2019, 12:31 PM
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As someone in the market for a new distributor, how does the 123 compare to stock, mallory, msd, etc? I am using the stock d-jet, so I'll need something with the trigger points.

Thanks,
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QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Feb 14 2019, 10:31 AM) *

As someone in the market for a new distributor, how does the 123 compare to stock, mallory, msd, etc? I am using the stock d-jet, so I'll need something with the trigger points.

Thanks,
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The 123 doesn't need trigger points. They have a plug and play solution for D-jet.
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