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ctc911ctc
post Feb 14 2019, 11:25 AM
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All,

I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear.

I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way.

I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift.

1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)?
2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites.
3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one:

https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l...#productDetails


My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible.

THANK YOU ALL TEENERS!

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post Feb 14 2019, 11:32 AM
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I have this one:

https://www.maxjaxusa.com/buy-purchase-maxj...rd-package.html

I really like it and you can unbolt one side and leave the other installed to have more room when not in use. (it has wheels) I just cover the holes in the floor with a matt when not installed. If I remember the anchoring system goes 4-5" in the floor and there are 7? anchors per post.
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post Feb 14 2019, 12:14 PM
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The lift should have specific installation instructions as well as minimum thickness for the concrete pad.
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post Feb 14 2019, 12:59 PM
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You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

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post Feb 14 2019, 01:02 PM
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Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things,

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You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

My $/02.

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post Feb 14 2019, 04:00 PM
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They make a few short versions of the two post lifts, but they are not clear floor lifts. The mechanism that syncs the two sides has to cross over somewhere, so if it can't cross over above, then it has to cross over below the car. Some of them can be installed with the crossover mechanism embedded in the concrete. That would be more expensive and invasive of the old carriage house's floor. If the floor is not original, you could buy the lift and replace the floor in the carriage house that was thick enough for the lift and had the crossover channel poured with the floor.


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Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things,

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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 14 2019, 01:59 PM) *

You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

My $/02.

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post Feb 14 2019, 07:18 PM
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Max Jax is pretty much your only option. That is what I had in my garage in a city rowhouse.



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I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.
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post Feb 14 2019, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(wndsnd @ Feb 14 2019, 08:35 PM) *

I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.

Great hobby lift.
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post Feb 15 2019, 06:25 AM
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Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...

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I decided on the EZ Car lift, light weight, very portable, lots of options like the caster kit.


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QUOTE(wndsnd @ Feb 14 2019, 08:35 PM) *

I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Get one of these and you are set.

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post Feb 15 2019, 10:22 AM
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After carefully considering what was posted, my limiting factor is height. I thought that I could get 2 914s into the garage with a 2 post lift, however, all of the 2 post systems I saw on-line are at least 112 inches where my ceiling is exactly 100.5 inches. I cannot raise the ceiling, no way. I most likely will go with a roll-away floor lift like EZCarlift or similar. Only one car only will ever fit in the garage........

Thank you AGAIN all teeners
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QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 14 2019, 12:25 PM) *

All,

I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear.

I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way.

I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift.

1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)?
2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites.
3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one:

https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l...#productDetails


My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible.

THANK YOU ALL TEENERS!

CTC911CTC

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Each of the two Rotary lifts (7,000# and 10,000#) are clear floor, asymmetrical two post lifts. Each of them (and many others) call for a minimum of 3,000 PSI concrete with a minimum thickness of 4 1/2". They both require 3/4" concrete anchors with a minimum length of 5 1/2" with a minimum anchor embedment of 3-1/2".

The anchors must be properly installed and the torque rating is supposed to be at least 150 ft-lbs.

My floor is more than 6" thick and I had no problems drilling and torquing my anchor bolts to my floor when I installed my lifts. At least Rotary Lifts does have ways of making the lifts fit low ceiling clearance, and narrow or wide bays, but lift height might be affected.

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post Feb 15 2019, 02:25 PM
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If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Feb 15 2019, 03:25 PM) *

If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.

Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.
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Good thing I am an engineer!

The concrete is 100 years old and not a crack. Not sure why it survived 100 winters but I would not cut it up.......thought about it.......just can’t do it.

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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Feb 15 2019, 03:25 PM) *

If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.

Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.

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There's a one post lift, plus it can be rolled out into the driveway.

https://www.atlasautoequipment.ca/atlas-psp...PRoCEu0QAvD_BwE

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QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 15 2019, 03:55 PM) *


Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.


Absolutely!
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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.
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