912 fair price?, Just curious what you know.... Options

[R8CERX]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[Jonathan Livesay]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewI...em=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

[ClayPerrine]

All of the 912 cars, IIRC, are short wheelbase cars (with the exception of the 912E).

Lately the short wheelbase 911s have risen in price to unobtanium levels. So buyers are turning to 912 chassis to convert to 911 power. Kinda like converting a 914-4 to a six. A few years ago, I sold a 68 912 roller, rusty and with no engine, for close to 10K. I put it on Pelican, and had 3 buyers within 4 hours.

If I were looking for an air cooled 911, I would look to the mid-year cars, 74-77. That was the age of the low compression, mild cammed motors with CIS and thermal reactors. Replace the motor with a good high compression motor with Webers or EFI on it, and you will still come off cheaper than a 912 in the same condition.


Of course, I would probably buy another 914 before I bought a 911/912. I actually bought that 912 with the intention of putting a six in it. It sat for years before I admitted I really didn't want to do any work on it. Taildraggers aren't my thing.


I would like to see someone who is good with body work take a 74 911 targa front end, a 74 914 back end and make them into one car. Call it a 1974 Boxster.

I would be such an evil genius if I had lots of money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

[mepstein]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewI...em=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Just like any Porsche, It's all about condition. But I want a '66 because it's my birth year. And I want it to have an old crappy respray so I'm not afraid to drive it anywhere.

[R8CERX]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewI...em=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Thank you! I did check Haggerty, ranging from 20K FAIR, 30's Good and up to 40+ Excellent


I am looking at one for $20K.... between fair and good condition.... may not be a bad investment....

[R8CERX]

All of the 912 cars, IIRC, are short wheelbase cars (with the exception of the 912E).

Lately the short wheelbase 911s have risen in price to unobtanium levels. So buyers are turning to 912 chassis to convert to 911 power. Kinda like converting a 914-4 to a six. A few years ago, I sold a 68 912 roller, rusty and with no engine, for close to 10K. I put it on Pelican, and had 3 buyers within 4 hours.

If I were looking for an air cooled 911, I would look to the mid-year cars, 74-77. That was the age of the low compression, mild cammed motors with CIS and thermal reactors. Replace the motor with a good high compression motor with Webers or EFI on it, and you will still come off cheaper than a 912 in the same condition.


Of course, I would probably buy another 914 before I bought a 911/912. I actually bought that 912 with the intention of putting a six in it. It sat for years before I admitted I really didn't want to do any work on it. Taildraggers aren't my thing.


I would like to see someone who is good with body work take a 74 911 targa front end, a 74 914 back end and make them into one car. Call it a 1974 Boxster.

I would be such an evil genius if I had lots of money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

I would buy it to keep it as a 912... I like the simple engine and not for the power.

i do like the short wheel base--

This car I am looking at is looking good for the cash....

[R8CERX]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewI...em=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Just like any Porsche, It's all about condition. But I want a '66 because it's my birth year. And I want it to have an old crappy respray so I'm not afraid to drive it anywhere.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[R8CERX]

Hagerty's price ranges....

[Mayne]

I would buy a 912 if I could. A short wheel base in Irish Green would do just fine. Keep in mind, short of the engine, the restoration of a 912 will cost pretty much the same as a 911, so if you thinking investment value, that's a consideration.

BTW, the 69 912 is long wheelbase, like the 911 of that year..

[thelogo]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

No offesnse man
But your totally miss informed about the 912.


About 10 years ago was the time to buy one up not now.
I have seen nothing but really expensive 912 s for sale that range in condition from need total resto to rough drivers , going for really high asking price.

By the time you find and buy one of these . Fix and restore it
You are gonna be sad you did , just to sell it off or drive it around ?


Im not seeing how it can make sense , financially or fun factor ?




https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/cto/d/s...6801158050.html

This actually looks like a nice car but 20k

Once you start paying for future collector value.

I check out as a buyer .

If offer the guy 12k and thats still pretty risky

[thelogo]

Hagerty's price ranges....

Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .

[914_teener]

Hagerty's price ranges....

Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .

Why the synisism?

One could say the same of a 914.

Hagerty's is a well reapected authority on pricing of classic cars and it is built on data from all over the country.

If the OP wants to get a 912...more power to him.

Good examples are rare and the law of scarcity would apply.

That's not an "asshat" opinion.

[ClayPerrine]

BTW, the 69 912 is long wheelbase, like the 911 of that year..

I did say "IIRC" - If I remember correctly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Thanks for catching that. I forgot they made the 912 in 69.

[KELTY360]

Hagerty's price ranges....

Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .

Why the synisism?

One could say the same of a 914.

Hagerty's is a well reapected authority on pricing of classic cars and it is built on data from all over the country.

If the OP wants to get a 912...more power to him.

Good examples are rare and the law of scarcity would apply.

That's not an "asshat" opinion.

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[thelogo]

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly







Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

[Dave_Darling]

912 prices have really been dragged upward by the longhood 911 prices. (All 912s except the 912E are longhood cars; all but the 912E and the 1969 model years are SWB models; with ones that are early enough you'll even see Nadella axles!) You're not likely to find decent cars for decent money.

They can still be worth it to buy, and fix up, and drive. Much like a 914. The driving experience is surprisingly 914-like. Kind of makes sense, though, as the engine is shorter and lighter and more forward than the equivalent 911. Perhaps it's only 914-like in comparison to an early 911.

Prices seem pretty absurd to me, but then again 914 prices are a lot higher than they used to be as well.

The 912 has all of the standard early-911 problems, notably rust where the front suspension attaches. Other areas as well, but that is by far the most common, like our "hell hole", and for similar reasons, because the batteries are close by. It also has the same set of engine problems as the later 356 motors, which are thankfully pretty robust, except for the heads. They apparently crack even worse than 2-liter 914 heads do.

--DD

[R8CERX]

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

No offesnse man
But your totally miss informed about the 912.


About 10 years ago was the time to buy one up not now.
I have seen nothing but really expensive 912 s for sale that range in condition from need total resto to rough drivers , going for really high asking price.

By the time you find and buy one of these . Fix and restore it
You are gonna be sad you did , just to sell it off or drive it around ?


Im not seeing how it can make sense , financially or fun factor ?




https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/cto/d/s...6801158050.html

This actually looks like a nice car but 20k

Once you start paying for future collector value.

I check out as a buyer .

If offer the guy 12k and thats still pretty risky

This is great!
This is what I wanted to hear

The one that I know of, is in better condition than this one... not sure of all the details as I did not want to bother the owner until I am convinced I really want to go after it--to drive, to invest if the right price is correct.

Based on what I see so far from the inputs, I may not be too far.

Much appreciate ALL the honest feedback!


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[R8CERX]

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)






Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

[R8CERX]

912 prices have really been dragged upward by the longhood 911 prices. (All 912s except the 912E are longhood cars; all but the 912E and the 1969 model years are SWB models; with ones that are early enough you'll even see Nadella axles!) You're not likely to find decent cars for decent money.

They can still be worth it to buy, and fix up, and drive. Much like a 914. The driving experience is surprisingly 914-like. Kind of makes sense, though, as the engine is shorter and lighter and more forward than the equivalent 911. Perhaps it's only 914-like in comparison to an early 911.

Prices seem pretty absurd to me, but then again 914 prices are a lot higher than they used to be as well.

The 912 has all of the standard early-911 problems, notably rust where the front suspension attaches. Other areas as well, but that is by far the most common, like our "hell hole", and for similar reasons, because the batteries are close by. It also has the same set of engine problems as the later 356 motors, which are thankfully pretty robust, except for the heads. They apparently crack even worse than 2-liter 914 heads do.

--DD

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[Unobtanium-inc]

If you've been looking to buy a 912, now is the time, they have recently dropped a lot in prices. The best cars are still bringing really good money but the average driver's and projects have really taken a hit. I know, I have about 6 of them out in the yard, and moved about 5 of them last year, so I know what they've been selling for.

The projects I sold last year ranged in price from $6000-12,000, which was way down from a couple of years ago when they were bringing $12,000-20,000.