1984 Porsche 914 with Wrong Title - 26 bids Options

[jagalyn]

1984 - 914 on Ebay with title that is not a 914... and 26 bids???? But 'Clean Title'.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Porsche-914/3...4gAAOSwpp1cfX2A

[poorsche914]

Yeah, I just messaged the seller letting him know the title is incorrect for the 914.

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[My 914]

It's an 84.

[DickSteinkamp]

He's also got a 924 listed. I think he just got the title pics mixed up.

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[Valy]

So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944).
And the 2nd title for a real 914 doesn't match the license plate on the car.

[76-914]

No money shots to verify it's condition but that looks like a damn good deal sitting there. Wish it were closer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Dash is cracked, seats need reupholstering and someone modified the WW park position. Other than that it looks tight! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[DickSteinkamp]

It's the kind of listing most people won't give a second look. Poor pictures, short description, possibly screwy paperwork. It's the kind of listing I love because of those short comings.

If I lived in the area, I'd be over at his place inspecting the cars and delving into the title status while everyone else is laughing at the seller. It may be a wild goose chase but has often been a very good use of my time.

[iwanta914-6]

It's the kind of listing most people won't give a second look. Poor pictures, short description, possibly screwy paperwork. It's the kind of listing I love because of those short comings.

If I lived in the area, I'd be over at his place inspecting the cars and delving into the title status while everyone else is laughing at the seller. It may be a wild goose chase but has often been a very good use of my time.

But there's a reserve. Chances are, because of the things you mentioned, it probably won't hit the reserve.

[mepstein]

It's the kind of listing most people won't give a second look. Poor pictures, short description, possibly screwy paperwork. It's the kind of listing I love because of those short comings.

If I lived in the area, I'd be over at his place inspecting the cars and delving into the title status while everyone else is laughing at the seller. It may be a wild goose chase but has often been a very good use of my time.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) the good deals are often camouflaged.

[Tom_T]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Hmmm...

A 74 914 listed as an 84 with plates that don't match the 84 nor 74 titles, a 79 924 listed with the 74 914's title & no plates visible anywhere, & an 84 title for a possible 3rd car 944 nowhere in sight.

Now that's one big cluster f**k! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Someone above & maybe others have PMed to him, & I did again, but I went the step further to report both ads to evil-bay that the vehicles are misrepresented by VINs, titles & plates.

It could be a scam, a case of too hurried or drunk, a case of having old cars in storage & not getting the right plates & paperwork with the correct car.

Either way, the seller needs to clean up his mess before anyone can possibly buy & register either one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Maybe if we have a SD member on here willing to help him figure things out, you may be able to help someone or confirm a scam/problem, & also get back to the Forum to clear up what's really going on. Think of it as your good deed for the month! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also, I'm not sure that he's got a reasonable idea of value for the reserve price. There are no rear badges for either 1.8 or 2.0, but I'd think that the current $3995 bid of 39 bids should have hit the reserve for a 1.8 in that poor condition with the work required to get it usable as even a DD. If a 2.0 then maybe it's a bit higher still (it has the center console, but that can be added or an option on a 1.8).

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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[jmitro]

So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944).
And the 2nd title for a real 914 doesn't match the license plate on the car.

914 title was issued 18 yrs ago. Plates change with time I would imagine

[Tom_T]

So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944).
And the 2nd title for a real 914 doesn't match the license plate on the car.

914 title was issued 18 yrs ago. Plates change with time I would imagine

Not in CA - same plate until title & registration is changed. We don't change as the plate designs do, as do some other stated like OK.

Whomever buys these cars - even assuming the correct title gets with the proper car - will have a mell of hess to clean up with our disfunctional DMV! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

And there may be huge fines & penalties due too - if the seller doesn't have them up to date on Non-Ops! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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Tom
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[Tdskip]

If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you can always just throw the plates away and DMV will issue new ones, doesn’t seem like that big of a deal

[Tom_T]

If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you can always just throw the plates away and DMV will issue new ones, doesn’t seem like that big of a deal

My point was that there could be title issues if there is a mismatch, & nothing with CA DMV is easy!

You generally need to turn in the old plates to DMV to get new ones - unless there are none on the car - so you can't just throw away old plates & hope that they'll issue new ones. I've been through this DMV dance before, as have many friends, & they can be complete a-holes!

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

So yes it can be a big deal.

[Chris914n6]

Can't speak for CA but in Nevada the vehicle can be registered to someone other than the title owner. Would explain the plate change.

[Tdskip]

If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you can always just throw the plates away and DMV will issue new ones, doesn’t seem like that big of a deal

My point was that there could be title issues if there is a mismatch, & nothing with CA DMV is easy!

You generally need to turn in the old plates to DMV to get new ones - unless there are none on the car - so you can't just throw away old plates & hope that they'll issue new ones. I've been through this DMV dance before, as have many friends, & they can be complete a-holes!

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

So yes it can be a big deal.

If everything is wrong then of course it’s a big deal, but it is conjecture That everything is wrong. May well be the case, they well not be the case.

You have, apparently, had bad luck who has helped you at DMV. I’ve personally found them helpful, and if you use AAA the whole thing borders on being a good experience. The rules are what the rules are-if you know them it’s not especially difficult to navigate the system.

There are also approaches to dealing with back fees on cars of this vintage in California.

Edit: if the plates on the car are not the ones associated with the car they’re going to issue new ones anyway, so don’t see why that’s a showstopper.

Not trying to give you a hard time Tom, I just had different experiences and while the points you raise or important to be aware of its conjecture.

[Dave_Darling]

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

If it hasn't been registered or non-op'ed in long enough, it falls out of the system, and there are no extra penalties. Sadly, I don't remember how long it takes for that to happen.

--DD

[DickSteinkamp]

Me thinks those that describe lots of potential problems with these cars...may be the ones most interested in them? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[mepstein]

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

If it hasn't been registered or non-op'ed in long enough, it falls out of the system, and there are no extra penalties. Sadly, I don't remember how long it takes for that to happen.

--DD

It sounds like that is a California problem. Doesn’t seem to be an issue with most other states. I find it’s cheaper to buy CA cars and ship than to do the metalwork on east coast cars. I’ve given my title company some funky looking titles with obviously wrong info and they just say whatever, we see it all the time and then a couple weeks later, I get the new title in the mail. They charge me a couple dollars to process over what it cost me to do myself. Money well spent.

[wes]

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

If it hasn't been registered or non-op'ed in long enough, it falls out of the system, and there are no extra penalties. Sadly, I don't remember how long it takes for that to happen.

--DD

The license doesn’t match the title versus the plates in the photo and Ca. License year sticker appears to be orange. The orange Ca year stickers are 2003, 08, 13, 18. I’m betting this is an older person trying to sell off unused vehicles as no longer in use due to the sellers age and just maybe a bit of old age senility. Just of course a old man gussying.