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> Would the welders look at this please
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post Mar 19 2019, 06:59 PM
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I've been welding in this car for a year and never had anything like this happen.

I ran out of gas and the welder was doing fine. Got a new bottle delivered today and hooked it up. When I started welding it sounded different, lots of soot, the metal doesn't puddle the way it did before and the welds look like crap! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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The other thing that happens is that the wire fuses itself to the gun tip. Settings are the same on the machine and everything was fine. The only thing that changed was a new bottle of gas. I'm sure it's possible for them to put the wrong mix or the wrong gas but before I call them is there something else I should be looking at? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Thanks in advance, Brad
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post Mar 21 2019, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(BPic @ Mar 19 2019, 05:59 PM) *

I've been welding in this car for a year and never had anything like this happen.

I ran out of gas and the welder was doing fine. Got a new bottle delivered today and hooked it up. When I started welding it sounded different, lots of soot, the metal doesn't puddle the way it did before and the welds look like crap! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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The other thing that happens is that the wire fuses itself to the gun tip. Settings are the same on the machine and everything was fine. The only thing that changed was a new bottle of gas. I'm sure it's possible for them to put the wrong mix or the wrong gas but before I call them is there something else I should be looking at? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Thanks in advance, Brad


Try this first.
First issue is that steel is coated. Need to grind it clean like that small swipe halfway through the upper weld except everywhere you are going to sample. Pull the nozzle off and clean the slag out as it may be shorting your contact tip causing the wire to stick to the tip. Check the gas diffuser while the nozzle is off while you are in their and make sure its not plugged with slag balls and gas is flowing. Change the tip. Purge both sides of the regulator. Open the tank valve and then while you are squeezing the gun trigger open up the flow regulator to about 45, then wind it back down to normal flow rate .

What regulator are you using? C02? C02 with adaptor or an Argon regulator?

That rusty almond frost around your welds looks like restricted shielding gas or really low to almost no flow.

Gas blends vary by far with industrial suppliers so perfect 75/25 mixes aren't realistic, 75 ā€“ 95 percent Argon and 5 ā€“ 25 percent CO2 is considered the normal these days when filled from a manifold. Its not much of an issue welding, both work fine even if the blend % is off. Most people would not notice it.

Does the tank they gave you have a painted shoulder that's different than the primary color of the tank? If so what color is the shoulder?

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If you think the fill is contaminated take the tank back and tell them you have a slugged tank, they should exchange it -it happens.
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BPic   Would the welders look at this please   Mar 19 2019, 06:59 PM
roblav1   Contaminated gas? Running straight argon, right? ...   Mar 19 2019, 07:13 PM
mepstein   @MB911   Mar 19 2019, 07:19 PM
Superhawk996   Bad gas It can happen to the best of us. :rotfl...   Mar 19 2019, 08:08 PM
tazz9924   It looks like you are missing a good amount of gas...   Mar 19 2019, 08:11 PM
Andyrew   :agree: What does the bottle say?   Mar 19 2019, 08:32 PM
mb911   Looks like 100% argon to me.. It will be a sluggis...   Mar 19 2019, 08:44 PM
mgp4591   Looks like 100% argon to me.. It will be a sluggi...   Mar 19 2019, 09:06 PM
Andyrew   Looks like 100% argon to me.. It will be a slugg...   Mar 19 2019, 10:32 PM
mb911   Looks like 100% argon to me.. It will be a slugg...   Mar 20 2019, 04:32 AM
roblav1   I wasn't sure if he's using MIG or TIG. I...   Mar 19 2019, 10:28 PM
BPic   Thanks everyone. Iā€™m running a mig with 75/25. C...   Mar 20 2019, 04:33 AM
mb911   Could be a combo of the gas/windy conditions and b...   Mar 20 2019, 05:48 AM
Superhawk996   Curious, did you get new bottle of gas and did the...   Mar 21 2019, 12:43 PM
Jeff Hail   I've been welding in this car for a year and ...   Mar 21 2019, 09:31 PM
roblav1   My issue was bad gas. A new tank and all is well....   Mar 22 2019, 07:52 AM
mepstein   My issue was bad gas. A new tank and all is well...   Mar 22 2019, 08:22 AM
bbrock   My issue was bad gas. A new tank and all is wel...   Mar 22 2019, 08:28 AM
Superhawk996   Still curious if OP's problem went away. @...   Mar 22 2019, 09:33 AM
Mark Henry   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Mar 22 2019, 10:36 AM
Jeff Hail   Still curious if OP's problem went away. ...   Mar 22 2019, 07:00 PM
mepstein   Still curious if OP's problem went away. ...   Mar 22 2019, 07:32 PM
sithot   Understatement. Yes, he teaches it alright. :w...   Mar 22 2019, 08:17 PM
roblav1   I've been using ER70-S6, with fair results on ...   Mar 22 2019, 10:40 AM
BPic   New gas bottle and it's laying some nice welds...   Mar 22 2019, 11:37 AM
Superhawk996   New gas bottle and it's laying some nice weld...   Mar 22 2019, 12:41 PM
Jeff Hail   New gas bottle and it's laying some nice weld...   Mar 22 2019, 06:57 PM
bretth   I wonder if this can be caused by the last person ...   Mar 22 2019, 01:01 PM
Jeff Hail   I wonder if this can be caused by the last person...   Mar 22 2019, 06:58 PM
mb911   Yup teach TIG including stainless, aluminum, magne...   Mar 22 2019, 08:50 PM
mb911   Oh and you welding galvaneel is a challenge it wil...   Mar 22 2019, 08:55 PM
Superhawk996   Oh and you welding galvaneel is a challenge it wi...   Mar 23 2019, 10:03 AM
mb911   Oh and you welding galvaneel is a challenge it w...   Mar 23 2019, 01:59 PM
mepstein   I thought you might do ti. We will have to talk ab...   Mar 22 2019, 08:59 PM
Joemo5   I'm definitely no expert but I've heard th...   Mar 23 2019, 09:20 AM


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