Weber rebuild recommendations, DIY or find a Pro? Are these 44s? |
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Weber rebuild recommendations, DIY or find a Pro? Are these 44s? |
seanpaulmc |
Mar 19 2019, 07:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Hello World!
Looking for recommendations on rebuilding my Weber carburetors... Is this a DIY project for a newbie, or Are there recommended shops or vendors here for that? (updated with pictures) (2 new pics added - other side of carb) Thanks in advance, Sean |
tmessenger |
Mar 19 2019, 08:00 PM
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AHudson |
Mar 19 2019, 09:11 PM
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Hello World! Looking for recommendations on rebuilding my Weber carburetors... Is this a DIY project for a newbie, or Are there recommended shops or vendors here for that? Thanks in advance, Sean I just had mine redone for a 914-6. Judging from the 3 months it took, the 2 pages of 44 parts replaced, the huge bag of dented or mangled bits returned, and the precise measuring it took to finish, I'd say "NO DIY NO WAY". But if you're talking a DGV or 2 barrels, it may be different and this is the place to find out! |
Chi-town |
Mar 19 2019, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
If you're talking IDFs they are easy just record all your settings before you disassemble them and take your time setting the float heights.
A full rebuild kit comes with about 30-40 parts (mostly o-rings). |
seanpaulmc |
Mar 20 2019, 06:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the replies.
New on this journey, I am not at all knowledgeable about the carburetors yet. I don't know the model, so I have added a few pictures of the carbs to the original post. Weber and Italian made. These are on a 2.0L 4cyl. How do you get the orientation of the pictures to be correct? They show up fine on my computer but are upside down when added to the post? Thank you, Sean |
jdamiano |
Mar 20 2019, 07:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States |
Depends on your budget. If you have the money have them done professionally. Your driving experience will be much better with great carbs. I have done it myself and it’s doable. YouTube!!! If you decide to have it done I hear they come back like new if you send them to National Carburetors here in Jacksonville Florida. They are on line.
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Optimusglen |
Mar 20 2019, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 901 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I rebuilt mine myself, the IDFs are really pretty straight forward. Then I had a professional tune and swap jets as necessary.
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tmessenger |
Mar 20 2019, 08:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 6-December 18 From: Iowa Member No.: 22,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Those are vintage IDF made in Italy Webers.
If you just want to flush them out and put kits in them it's an easy project. There's a good youtube video on how to properly set the float level. If the throttle shaft bearings are bad it's more complicated and you may want to hire the rebuild out. You can check them by grabbing the linkage at each end of the throttle shafts and see if they have movement (the bearings should be tight with no up/down movement in them). If the bearings are bad there's a chance the throttle plates are also worn. Regards, Tim |
lalee914 |
Mar 20 2019, 09:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 13-February 13 From: Georgetown, DE Member No.: 15,521 Region Association: North East States |
You can find the Weber factory service manuals here:
http://p914-6info.net/Manuals.htm And a lot of other useful info. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 20 2019, 09:17 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,770 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
easy to do, the rebuild kits have instructions, the most important thing is to thoroughly clean
Hello World! Looking for recommendations on rebuilding my Weber carburetors... Is this a DIY project for a newbie, or Are there recommended shops or vendors here for that? (updated with pictures) Thanks in advance, Sean |
walterolin |
Mar 20 2019, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 30-November 11 From: Louisville, Ky Member No.: 13,838 Region Association: South East States |
Might want to check with ThePaintedMan, George. He's in St. Pete. Don't know if he is still doing rebuilds, but here is an old thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=228153
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porschetub |
Mar 20 2019, 01:00 PM
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Not too hard ,make sure you use good tools so you don't chew out the jets and round off bolts,if you are unsure about assembly only do one carb @ a time ,don't take too long to do it otherwise you tend to forget where things go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ,take lots of pics also.
Order genuine Weber kits as they have parts that fit properly,some aftermarket ones leave a bit to be desired,order the kits ahead of time, clean them really well before assembly. Lots of info online to set them up so no issue there,do all your primary settings before you refit them as saves constantly removing them to solve issues ,you will need to do the following; check float levels, set throttle stops, check enrichment lever adjustment,put fuel in the bowls ,check for leaks and test accelerator jets for clean even spray down the throats, set mixture screws to 2.5 turns out . Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) . |
Mark Henry |
Mar 20 2019, 01:43 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Those are vintage IDF made in Italy Webers. If you just want to flush them out and put kits in them it's an easy project. There's a good youtube video on how to properly set the float level. If the throttle shaft bearings are bad it's more complicated and you may want to hire the rebuild out. You can check them by grabbing the linkage at each end of the throttle shafts and see if they have movement (the bearings should be tight with no up/down movement in them). If the bearings are bad there's a chance the throttle plates are also worn. Regards, Tim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Look for carbon tracking on the butterflies, if it has this likely the bearings or bushings are shot. The rest is fairly easy, likely vid's on YT. |
Valy |
Mar 20 2019, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,671 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
Easy to rebuild.
Take apart and soak in carb cleaner overnight. Make sure you don't soak any plastic parts in the cleaner. Reassembling is easy but tuning is a bit of a pain. |
seanpaulmc |
Mar 21 2019, 06:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Thank you All! This information has been very helpful. Especially the link to the manuals.
Next question: Is there a preferred vendor or brand for the rebuild kits? I want to get a good quality kit. Thanks again! Sean |
seanpaulmc |
Mar 24 2019, 07:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Hello,
I took a couple new pics and put them in the original post. There is a clear 44 stamped on the side but also looks like a 39 stamped. So, are these 44s? Should I look to get a jetting kit too? Or, wait on that to see how they run once the rebuild is done? Car didn't / doesn't run well now but it's a lot of things. With the great advice I'm looking to tackle this myself and now source the correct rebuild kits. Thank you, Sean |
seanpaulmc |
Mar 25 2019, 05:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
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Mark Henry |
Mar 25 2019, 06:57 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Yes they're 44's, really meant for 2270cc+ engines but will work on a 2.0.
I'd machine the air cleaner bottoms flat and add velocity stacks. I think that's what you're calling inlet venturis. You also need a sync tool, I recommend the more expensive BK snail sync or the china copy, don't bother with the uni-sync. http://vwparts.aircooled.net/category-s/174.htm You need a good linkage, #1 reason for tuning issues is junk linkage. I hate the hex bar linkage and have tossed many sets in the trash. A wide band O2 meter and a jet reamer set makes jetting easy. I use 3 fuel filters, one before the pump and one before each carb. Use FI hose clamps not the common worm gear clamps and use a quality menthol proof fuel hose. Fuel pump must push no more than 4psi, 3.5 would be perfect, I use a pressure regulator. |
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