CV joint part numbers?, update April 2019 |
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CV joint part numbers?, update April 2019 |
larryM |
Mar 21 2019, 03:56 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
going thru my stash, prepping for the yard sale
have 2 Lobro CV's in old boxes - believe one is -6, per fella i got it from long ago 914 3320 2903 - is 914-4 all ? 914 3320 2901 - is what? - any help? update - lot's of good info in responses below - so I finally unboxed 'em & counted the splines 04-02-2019 the 029 01 is a -6- CV, appears to be new - in a oldish cardboard-brown box with blue Lobro printing the 029 03 is a -4- CV, also appears to be new - in a yellow Lobro box that has seen a bit of haphazard shelf life - both wrapped in brown oil-paper in the boxes fwiw - web searching the numbers comes up with varying & sometimes incorrect fitments on various of our parts-seller sites - i find the same part-number vs fit problem with new -6- rear cyl rebuild kits (ATE) that i have had for awhile - b'ot 'em back when they were NLA, from E.A.S.Y.'s last stock - "if they say it on the internet .... it may not be true" |
Mark Henry |
Mar 21 2019, 04:35 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
going thru my stash, prepping for the yard sale have 2 Lobro CV's in old boxes - believe one is -6, per fella i got it from long ago 914 3320 2903 - is 914-4 all ? 914 3320 2901 - is what? - any help? Any other numbers on there? VW and porsche numbers are groups of 9 (3x3) and sometimes a 2 letter or 2 number suffix. XXX XXX XXX -XX |
bbrock |
Mar 21 2019, 04:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
914 332 029 03 is the correct 914-4 part number.
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Mark Henry |
Mar 21 2019, 05:10 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
914 332 029 03 is the correct 914-4 part number. This ad (first link I clicked on google) says 914 332 029 01 has been superseded by 914 332 029 03 so likely they are both /4 CV's. https://www.sonnenporscheoemparts.com/oem-p...int-91433202903 |
bbrock |
Mar 21 2019, 05:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
914 332 029 03 is the correct 914-4 part number. This ad (first link I clicked on google) says 914 332 029 01 has been superseded by 914 332 029 03 so likely they are both /4 CV's. https://www.sonnenporscheoemparts.com/oem-p...int-91433202903 This could explain a problem @76-914 and I are having. We both ordered 914 332 029 03 joints from Sunset Porsche and what we received were 25-spine joints which are for sixes. Still waiting on PCNA to weigh in on the problem. They can change the part numbers all they want, but it won't make them fit the axles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
76-914 |
Mar 21 2019, 07:05 PM
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PET only lists the -03. Not sure about what the -01 was/is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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larryM |
Mar 21 2019, 11:11 PM
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.... the answer is ..... count the splines?
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Mark Henry |
Mar 22 2019, 05:07 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
914 332 029 03 is the correct 914-4 part number. This ad (first link I clicked on google) says 914 332 029 01 has been superseded by 914 332 029 03 so likely they are both /4 CV's. https://www.sonnenporscheoemparts.com/oem-p...int-91433202903 This could explain a problem @76-914 and I are having. We both ordered 914 332 029 03 joints from Sunset Porsche and what we received were 25-spine joints which are for sixes. Still waiting on PCNA to weigh in on the problem. They can change the part numbers all they want, but it won't make them fit the axles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Yes, I didn't vet the source, just saw that ad on the first google search link that came up. Doesn't the new complete half shafts have a different spline count (or something different) than a regular /4 CV? .... the answer is ..... count the splines? Well.... 25 splines will be a /6, I'm sure someone will chime in with the number of splines on a /4 axle. |
914Sixer |
Mar 22 2019, 05:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
914 are 33 splines. Go to Blind Chicken racing for CV joint 101.
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bbrock |
Mar 22 2019, 07:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Doesn't the new complete half shafts have a different spline count (or something different) than a regular /4 CV? This was going to be my next question. I think it solves the mystery but doesn't make Kent or I happy. Bottom line is the complete axle assemblies appear to be from the /6 with 25 splines which would bolt right on to a /4 or /6. That means the 33-spline joints are truly NLA. The confusion started way back with the PET. It lists two entries for the complete shaft assembly, both with P/N 914-332-009-03. One entry shows it for a /6 and the other doesn't specify. The for the CV joint, they have only one P/N listed (914-332-029-03) which they say is for all /4 models. As Kent said, there is no part listed for the /6. I will bet that the correct P/N for the six is 914-332-009-01 for the axle and 914-332-029-01 for the joint. If you plug those P/Ns into the Porsche catalog, you get notes that both have been replaced by the 03 versions. That's actually backwards and while the axles are interchangeable, the stand alone joints are not. Unfortunately, Porsche has jacked the price of complete axles to $680 per side which is a ridiculously expensive way to replace a couple of joints. Bottom line, looks like I'm in the market for a couple of 33-spline joints again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 22 2019, 09:41 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,820 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
even my old old original porsche 914 parts book has only listed the 03 suffix as a 914-4 with no listing for the 914-6 other than a complete axle with cvs attached
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bbrock |
Mar 22 2019, 09:44 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
even my old old original porsche 914 parts book has only listed the 03 suffix as a 914-4 with no listing for the 914-6 other than a complete axle with cvs attached George, can you check what P/N they list for the complete axle? I'm betting the 03 version. |
SteveL |
Mar 22 2019, 10:13 AM
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going thru my stash, prepping for the yard sale have 2 Lobro CV's in old boxes - believe one is -6, per fella i got it from long ago 914 3320 2903 - is 914-4 all ? 914 3320 2901 - is what? - any help? If they turn out to be new 4cyl CV joints, I might be very interested - how much? |
914Sixer |
Mar 22 2019, 02:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
SO, the short version is they reproduced the -6 axle and joint not the -4
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bbrock |
Mar 22 2019, 02:24 PM
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914_7T3 |
Mar 22 2019, 03:04 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm far from an expert on anything, but does the half shaft part number add to the confusion or clarify as it references both the 4 cyl. & 6 cyl. models.
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bbrock |
Mar 22 2019, 03:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Do you happen to know the spline count on those?
Here's where I think the confusion started which probably goes all the way back to when the first PET was drafted in the late 60s. Notice there are two entries for the complete half shaft, both with the same P/N and one missing a description of models it pertains to. What I think happened was that the 914-4 P/N got accidentally linked to the -6. Then look down at the cv joint entry. Only one P/N listed and only for the -4. -6 is missing. Clearly something is amiss here and it is biting us in the ass now. |
914_7T3 |
Mar 22 2019, 06:51 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
Do you happen to know the spline count on those? Nope, didn't know there was more than one type. However, check the photos on this Evil Bay listing from High Performance House. If you count, you can clearly see the 33 splines. "NOS Porsche 1970-76 914-4 CV Joint GERMAN 33 Spline Original 914-332-029-03 NEW" https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Porsche-1970-7...5.c100752.m1982 Says they have 5 available |
larryM |
Mar 25 2019, 10:26 AM
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all above is interesting!
- (sometimes we have to remind ourselves that these cars were never intended to last for 50 yrs and ever be rebuilt-restored) - .... so - is the axle -to-hub spline the same for both the -6 & -4 meaning one can use either version complete axle in a -6 ????? i ask cuz i also have 2 complete -4 axles & they would be important to have as -6 spares if they fit the -6 hub i haven't yet got around to inspecting the 2 CV's that started this post - i see AA has the -4 CV for $75 - seems like a bargain? |
sixnotfour |
Mar 25 2019, 11:15 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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