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Pploco Sti-defiling a 914, such a BLAST! |
pploco |
Apr 5 2019, 03:47 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I figure its high time to start sharing my subaru conversion progress with y'all. I'm new to the 914 and have been silently lurking on the site gleaning as much knowledge as possible. I'm a few months into the conversion, and decided to gather up my pictures and start sharing.
Several years ago I shoe-horned a turbo subaru 2.0 into a 73 beetle 73 Subaru Conversion I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST flogging that poor little thing. But I quickly learned that the bug was not a very safe platform for a 300hp subaru engine. I could dust anything off the line and actually pull the front wheels off the ground. But it was a scary handful on the freeway. I ended up selling it and have missed that angry little blue bug ever since. I've always loved the 914, and have watched from the fringes as they creep up and up in value. So when two basket cases popped up locally on craigslist, I decided it was time to jump back in and do a proper conversion Lucky for me, I found these on a 2'fer one deal: 74: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1555094918.1.jpg) 73: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554504271.1.jpg) The PO had stuffed a Pontiac v6 in the 73. He totally scabbed the conversion together - especially the cooling. No radiator fan, square tubing for coolant lines - its ugly. Not surprising, he cooked the motor. Then let it sit outside and rust. The interior is in excellent shape, but the rockers, longs, hell hole, and door jams are pretty bad. The 74 had been stripped and "prepped" for paint. His reality of "prepped" boarders on insanity. He was planning a LS conversion but didn't get any further than stripping it down and spraying it with john deere yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) It basically came home in boxes. But, I picked them both up for $1500, then sold the 1.7 and trans from the 74 for $1K. Not a bad deal at all. I'm planning to use the 74 as my base. It has some hell hole issues and a few rust spots, but the longs are in pretty good shape and the pan is mostly solid. I'll use the 73 for an interior parts car. Now for a motor porn teaser - This is what I put together last weekend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-22225-1554500840.3.jpg) |
pploco |
Apr 5 2019, 03:49 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Project plans:
This is going to be an evolving post as the project progresses. I would describe myself as a weekend warrior with fake-sick-to-work in the garage once in a while tendencies. So my timeline is wide open as to when I'll likely have this wrapped up. I do have to hurry though. My 13 year old son has decided he loves to weld and fab and he is eyeing the '73 as his first car. If I'm going to have interior and various parts, I've got to move quickly. Since the driving age in Idaho is 15, I figure I've got less than 2 years to be at least driving this beast. My goal is to have the motor and trans ready to mock in, then they'll go on a shelf for the fabbing and rust repair. I'll then prep and paint. Having done a few projects like this in the past - there is nothing worse than having to cut a freshly painted car to fit something for the conversion. I want paint and interior to be the last things I do. Admittedly, I can be a bit scattered on these projects because of the way they have to share space on my priority list with family, work, and other important commitments. So I try to only tackle jobs I know I can finish in the time and budget that I have available - if that makes sense. So while there might appear to be madness to my approach, I promise there's a method to the madness. My plans (as of May 2019) Motor: 2008 EJ257 STI block bored +.5mm Timesert head bolt anchors 2008 OEM STI crank with nitride coating OEM STI rods with ARP rod bolts King racing main and rod bearings Manley forged and skirted pistons ARP head studs Heads - 2004 OEM with single AVCS - new OEM valves and guides Stock exhaust and uppipe Turbo - Cobb 20g ECU - 2004 STI stock with Cobb AP tuner Harness - 2004 STI stock, custom by Jeff Robenolt @ AutoVentures LLC Cooling Toyota Celica GT radiator Fozenboost Water/Air intercooler Transmission '04 WRX 5 speed Body Color:still undecided - narrowed down to porsche red, black, olympic blue GT flares(?) still on the fence here. I love the GT flares on a black or dark blue, but not on red or light blue Misc Conversion Coldwater cradle and trans hanger JDM STI clutch master Celica GT or MR2 shifter Zero Decibel bell hanger shift linkage Subaru STI fuel assembly/pump Heat and A/C |
pploco |
Apr 5 2019, 03:57 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
More of the '74:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-22225-1554501446.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-22225-1554501446.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554504649.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554504650.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554504650.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554504650.4.jpg) |
pploco |
Apr 5 2019, 04:02 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I wanted to see what the PO's "fix" to the hell hole looked like. So I grabbed my wire wheel and started cleaning. Before long, bolt heads appeared - what the....
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-22225-1554501734.1.jpg) I should also mention that this was under about a 1/2 inch of what looked like roofing tar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) |
pploco |
Apr 5 2019, 04:08 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sorry folks... I have a whole slew of photos to share, but google isn't cooperating. Stay tuned...
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Retroracer |
Apr 5 2019, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Welcome to the forum!! Looking forward to seeing the build develop.
Looks like the PO sold you the little-known early IKEA version of the 914; it arrived flat-packed, and you simply bolt it together. Not really. But seriously, that looks terrifying. You have some challenging body work ahead....! - Tony |
tmessenger |
Apr 5 2019, 06:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 6-December 18 From: Iowa Member No.: 22,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Those FI parts in the front trunk may have some value, just saying we have a buy/sell forum. Tim |
Cairo94507 |
Apr 5 2019, 06:39 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,708 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) It took me forever to figure out the photo-thing here. But welcome and have fun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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mepstein |
Apr 5 2019, 06:50 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Freezin 914 |
Apr 5 2019, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 840 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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76-914 |
Apr 5 2019, 08:11 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,489 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Oh, Welcome to the Dark Side too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Maltese Falcon |
Apr 5 2019, 08:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,634 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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burton73 |
Apr 6 2019, 09:56 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,489 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
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EdwardBlume |
Apr 7 2019, 06:04 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
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strawman |
Apr 7 2019, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
I’m in Boise for a family thing this weekend, so I had a chance to meet Scott and see his project. This is going to be a great “sleeper” car, and Scott is a nice addition to the 914 community. Best of all, his young son is a car guy (he’s welding up a buggy!) and wants to eventually build the spare/parts 914 — so Scott is getting the next generation into our cars. Scott also has great knowledge of Subaru engines. Keep an eye on this build!!
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krazykonrad |
Apr 7 2019, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,122 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 |
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This looks like its going to be a great build. Get in touch with @michiganmatt. He just did a killer build that is similar. Konrad |
pploco |
Apr 8 2019, 08:40 AM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I’m in Boise for a family thing this weekend, so I had a chance to meet Scott and see his project. This is going to be a great “sleeper” car, and Scott is a nice addition to the 914 community. Best of all, his young son is a car guy (he’s welding up a buggy!) and wants to eventually build the spare/parts 914 — so Scott is getting the next generation into our cars. Scott also has great knowledge of Subaru engines. Keep an eye on this build!! Thanks for swinging by on Saturday, it was great to pick your brain for a bit! |
pploco |
Apr 8 2019, 09:14 AM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
All right, lets kick this off properly. No 914 rustoration would be complete without a trip down to hell (hole). The PO waxed poetic on all of his extensive work to fix the hell hole. He said that he had "installed" patch panels and sealed them with rust inhibiting treatment. I think he mentioned POR15.
Once I got the car in my garage, I started cleaning things up and sorting through the parts, I noticed there was something a little off with the "patched" areas. After a little wire wheel action, I see this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736440.1.jpg) Then this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736441.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736441.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736441.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736442.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736442.6.jpg) Pictures don't do this custom work justice. This patch was a good inch thick with what looked like fiber filler and tar. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736442.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736443.8.jpg) Before I got too crazy with the cutting and welding, I decided to check the door gaps to make sure. Everything checked out. But I was worried that the PO had done similar repairs in other areas and covered them up with the lovely Walmart tractor yellow. I went around the car and tested door jams, trunks, fenders, sail panels - all the nooks and crannys that might have other surprises waiting. I did find a nice bondo monument to middle school dropout bodywork in the rear trunk, and a few small cover ups on the sail panels, but overall this is a pretty solid car. Oh, and if anyone is interested I have a set of slightly used hell hole patch panels that I'd sell for super cheap. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554736443.9.jpg) |
mepstein |
Apr 8 2019, 09:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Actually, one of mine was similar with spray foam, copper sheet and tar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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pploco |
Apr 8 2019, 09:39 AM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I started cutting back to find solid metal. Luckily, the long wasn't bad, and I probably cut more out of the inner fender well than I needed. There was definitely one annoying little corner in the firewall that was a booger to clean up.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554737982.1.jpg) It was nice to see that the inside of the long wasn't completely rotten. I probed with my chisel and body hammer and found a little spot at the bottom of the long. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554737983.2.jpg) But there was solid metal to work with. Sorry for the shady picture.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-22225-1554737985.3.jpg) I was relieved to see some factory primer peeking through the sides and bottom. Once I vacuumed all the rust and flake out, it looked pretty good overall. I didn't get a good picture, but just in front of the firewall toward the front of the car is all factory primed metal. I'll have to open up the bottom and weld in a patch, but it should be minimal. My plan is to open it up, clean and scrape and then treat with phospho and some frame wax. |
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