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> Pploco Sti-defiling a 914, such a BLAST!
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post May 20 2022, 09:55 AM
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I've been making progress on the rust repair. My schedule only allows me a few hours here and there; but this project began as a mental oasis for me. I've settled into a place where I find a few hours to steal away into the shop, put on some tunes, and decompress. Its been a therapeutic project, but slow.

I've got the passenger sail panel ready to be primed and welded, I've cleaned all the tar, seam sealer, and foam from inside the passenger rear quarter. That was a junk-punch journey for sure.

The best method I settled on was to have a putty knife in one hand, torch in the other, and a long flat screwdriver in my back pocket. Having the car on a rotisserie helps a ton - I have no idea how peeps clean all that shit out lying on their backs or up on a lift. Being able to stand and move the car around makes it much much easier. Also, if helpful, I'll pass along a few lessons I've learned.

1. Seam sealer comes off much easier when its molten - keep a fire extinguisher handy
2. Farm words help while digging the foam out of the rear fender well corners
3. Flaming seam sealer globs burn like hell if they fall in between your shoe and ankle

I digress....

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I've been dreading the small long repair. Once I cut all the rust back to solid metal I was left with a hole that was on multiple angles. I decided to sack up and finish it. I have a long stiffener kit from Brad, so the repair doesn't need to look pretty, but I want it to be done right. The inside of the long looks pretty good. Before I weld everything up, I'll treat it and coat it with either POR or or a thick coat of epoxy primer.

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post May 20 2022, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(pploco @ May 20 2022, 08:55 AM) *

I've been making progress on the rust repair. My schedule only allows me a few hours here and there; but this project began as a mental oasis for me. I've settled into a place where I find a few hours to steal away into the shop, put on some tunes, and decompress. Its been a therapeutic project, but slow.

I've got the passenger sail panel ready to be primed and welded, I've cleaned all the tar, seam sealer, and foam from inside the passenger rear quarter. That was a junk-punch journey for sure.

The best method I settled on was to have a putty knife in one hand, torch in the other, and a long flat screwdriver in my back pocket. Having the car on a rotisserie helps a ton - I have no idea how peeps clean all that shit out lying on their backs or up on a lift. Being able to stand and move the car around makes it much much easier. Also, if helpful, I'll pass along a few lessons I've learned.

1. Seam sealer comes off much easier when its molten - keep a fire extinguisher handy
2. Farm words help while digging the foam out of the rear fender well corners
3. Flaming seam sealer globs burn like hell if they fall in between your shoe and ankle

I digress....

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I've been dreading the small long repair. Once I cut all the rust back to solid metal I was left with a hole that was on multiple angles. I decided to sack up and finish it. I have a long stiffener kit from Brad, so the repair doesn't need to look pretty, but I want it to be done right. The inside of the long looks pretty good. Before I weld everything up, I'll treat it and coat it with either POR or or a thick coat of epoxy primer.

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OMG, I feel your pain. I know exactly what your describing as I've been through the same repairs except I needed only to replace a small strip on each sail panel. Imagine removing all of that sealer and foam on a lift with only a 2"x~15" opening on the sail panel. I'm pretty sure I invented a few new words. Have you had the pleasure of removing the sealer between the qtr panel the tail lamp openings? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) I too used a torch, putty knife, long screwdrivers, etc. I found that removing the handle on a plumbers copper fitting brush and chucking it into a drill will work well in crevices. When it stops cutting reverse and do it some more. Also, a body saw (miniature sawzall) works in tight spots to remove sealant. What gauge metal did you use for the long repair. I'm pretty sure OEM was 19ga on the outer layer but I used 14ga since I wouldn't be able to weld an 18ga piece to the inner support piece. Your work looks good. Stick with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 22 2022, 09:11 AM
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I had a few hours to work on the 914 this weekend. I prepped and treated the interior of the long and the sail panel with ZR. I attached a brush to a long stick and got as far up into the rear of the long as I could and did the same forward. Then let it cure for 24 hours.

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I also hit the spots I knew would be tough or impossible to reach once the sail panel was welded on. My plan is to use ZR in spots that I won't be able to get to with epoxy primer.

I made my patch for the lower rear long with two pieces of 16gauge to match the thickness and structure of the existing metal. This has added a few challenges in welding and fabbing the patches, but makes things much easier once the panel is fitted in matching thickness. I still have some cleanup to do, but it turned out better than I hoped.

The PO had done some serious hammering to the long - no idea what he was thinking. The top of the long towards the fender was smashed down in the corner. When I repaired the hell hold, I wrapped the top with a piece of 14 gauge and bent it around to reshape it. Its kinda ugly, but the long stiffener kit and fender should cover most of the dents.

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Once cleaned up, I test fitted the long siffener kit rear piece and it fit perfectly. I was pretty happy until I stripped one of the bolts in the suspension mount taking the piece off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I think I can just run a chase through it, but makes me kinda mad.

Finally, I welded and cleaned up some of the sail panel replacement.
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I still have a few spot welds and some cleanup and pinholes to fix, but I ran out of welding gas so I called it a night. Getting this phase completed felt like a milestone.
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post Nov 1 2022, 12:15 PM
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Update progress. I'm still in the fight and still working on the rust spots. I ran out of easy options so I began to tackle the tough spots. Thanks to the donor parts I pulled from the Renegade Hybrid parts car I fixed the frunk cowl. I don't know why I put it off for so long, it was actually pretty easy.

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I also dug into the drivers door jam, rocker, sail panel, and rear quarter. The sail panel rust band extended into the door jam. I could have probably just cut the lower part of the sail panel, but once I opened it up I'm glad I had the space to clean and treat behind the panel and the fender.

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post Nov 8 2022, 01:36 PM
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I thought I'd post a few pictures of the front passenger fender/cowl repair. Warning: seam welding happened as a final step :-)

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I have a few pin holes to fix and some cleanup, but I'm glad with how it turned out. It feels good to have most of the major rust repair metal work done.
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Wow, amazing work!
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