195/65R15 tire thread, discuss, review, and post pictures of tires, wheels and cars |
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195/65R15 tire thread, discuss, review, and post pictures of tires, wheels and cars |
Big Len |
Apr 13 2019, 06:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
They seem to have good, but limited, reviews. But I don't think it would be enough to convince me to buy a Chinese tire.
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scott_in_nh |
Apr 13 2019, 10:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
They seem to have good, but limited, reviews. But I don't think it would be enough to convince me to buy a Chinese tire. They are actually made in Thailand I learned my lesson on a 2014 Dodge Dart GT I was leasing. The factory Yokohama tires (that I never liked) weren't going to make it to the end of the lease. So I put on some cheap Chinese tires from Pep Boys that had good reviews. They ended being far superior than the OEM tires. So I don't blame you for you skepticism, but have reasonable expectations for these tires. In Asia, several American and European companies OEM this brand |
Big Len |
Apr 13 2019, 11:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You mentioned Yokohama's being an OEM tire on your Dart that you never liked, yet use that argument as a reason to justify your purchase. And being made in China or Thailand makes little consequence to me. Tires are pretty damn important to a car like ours and without a lot of member opinions, yes, I would be skeptical, especially at a very low price point. But I wish you luck with them and maybe in a few months of driving in different conditions, you can provide us with your review.
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scott_in_nh |
Apr 15 2019, 08:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
Out of curiosity, where were everyone's current tires made?
My Goodyear GT's were made in Chile.... they have been very good tires, but discontinued with a replacement that looks more all season than performance |
bbrock |
Apr 15 2019, 08:26 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Out of curiosity, where were everyone's current tires made? My Goodyear GT's were made in Chile.... they have been very good tires, but discontinued with a replacement that looks more all season than performance Tire Rack listed the country of origin for my Firehawk AS tires as US, but the ones I bought from the local Firestone dealer are stamped "made in Vietnam." |
Amphicar770 |
Apr 15 2019, 02:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
They may be decent but should you need to sell car, off brand tires are sometimes a red flag indicating less than premium maintenance. But hey, the more options the better so thanks for sharing.
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scott_in_nh |
Apr 15 2019, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
They may be decent but should you need to sell car, off brand tires are sometimes a red flag indicating less than premium maintenance. But hey, the more options the better so thanks for sharing. I agree and I’m not selling it, but they really aren’t “rebranded” or “off brand” anymore than Yokohama or Nitto were when you first heard of them a couple of decades ago |
GeorgeRud |
Apr 15 2019, 08:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The selection is even worse for the standard 14” Fuchs as delivered on the 914-6. The Vredestein Sportrack is the only tire in 195/65-14 that Tire Rack lists. Has anyone used these?
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mark04usa |
Apr 15 2019, 08:55 PM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm running Pirelli P4 Four Seasons+ 195/65 on my DD 914. They are made in Brazil. Perfectly cromulent street tires so far. Only problem is getting a good wheel balance with lug centric setup. I got them at Sears about a year and 3,000 miles ago, likely my last Sears purchase...
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Cal |
Apr 15 2019, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
I recently installed the 185/70/15 Vredestein Sprint Classics....they're made in Holland.
Period correct size with a nice vintage style/appearance....they're also reasonably priced. Attached thumbnail(s) |
scott_in_nh |
Apr 16 2019, 11:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
I had the original Vredestein Sprint, probably in this same size, on my primer and rust 69 Karmann Ghia in the early eighties and loved them
My friend's father like them too and told me they were worth more than the car This time around I want something with a meatier look, modern tread, and rounded shoulders that wasn't a minivan/econobox/energy saver tire I never really liked the square shoulder on the Goodyear GT's I have, but would have lived with it for sticky summer tires Speaking of sticky summer tires, I would have spent >$100/tire if I could find them, but they just doesn't seem to exist any longer in this size, so they had to have a reasonable price as well One of the links above was for a Vredestein that was V rated that I wish I had found and inquired about (you have to request a quote), but if you have to ask the price....Actually maybe I will just to see what it is |
scott_in_nh |
Apr 16 2019, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
i requested a quote, but searching around it looks like the Vredestein Sportrac 5 V is NLA (which explains why it wasn't on my radar)
EDIT: got a quick response - $99 each includes shipping and there are only 7 in the US and none in transit |
Biggles |
Apr 16 2019, 02:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
I use Falken tyres (Japanese) and they are very good (and look unassuming / bit more 'in period', on the wheel ). Not in a 195 tread, but i'm going to go to those on the front for a bit lighter steering, and retain 225's on the rear.
The model number is even ZE914 - it was meant to be !! |
raynekat |
Apr 16 2019, 03:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,154 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Pirelli P6000 in this size.....but spendy.
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scott_in_nh |
Apr 17 2019, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
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RolinkHaus |
Apr 17 2019, 11:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
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dflesburg |
Apr 17 2019, 11:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,719 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
We use 205 60 15 they work well
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Dougal Cawley |
Apr 18 2019, 08:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 23-March 17 From: Longstone Tyres Member No.: 20,953 Region Association: England |
Oo!
why wouldn't you fit the good stuff There are plenty of excellent options on here https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-ca...914.html#page=1 And if you want to get silly there is also Pirelli P7 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/pirelli-co...nturato-p7.html Or Michelin TB15 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/michelin-c...tyres/tb15.html At least with these tyres you will fit a carcass that is designed to be fitted to acar like yours and will therefore handle better. |
scott_in_nh |
Apr 18 2019, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
Oo! why wouldn't you fit the good stuff There are plenty of excellent options on here https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-ca...914.html#page=1 And if you want to get silly there is also Pirelli P7 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/pirelli-co...nturato-p7.html Or Michelin TB15 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/michelin-c...tyres/tb15.html At least with these tyres you will fit a carcass that is designed to be fitted to acar like yours and will therefore handle better. Some of those tires are great for the concours guys, which most of us are not I disagree that they are the "good stuff" or that they will make my car "handle better" than modern tires - YMMV The idea for this thread (though obviously I have little control of the direction it takes) is to hone in on the available options in a 195/65R15 as they are a preferred size for many that maximizes the amount of rubber on the road, while also not overly affecting gearing or speedometer accuracy, and with a sufficiently tall sidewall to not look out of place on a 914 - that's it! There are plenty of other threads that discuss the merits of any tire that will fit under the fender that already include "classic tires" |
Dougal Cawley |
Apr 18 2019, 11:02 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 23-March 17 From: Longstone Tyres Member No.: 20,953 Region Association: England |
Oo! why wouldn't you fit the good stuff There are plenty of excellent options on here https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-ca...914.html#page=1 And if you want to get silly there is also Pirelli P7 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/pirelli-co...nturato-p7.html Or Michelin TB15 https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/michelin-c...tyres/tb15.html At least with these tyres you will fit a carcass that is designed to be fitted to acar like yours and will therefore handle better. Some of those tires are great for the concours guys, which most of us are not I disagree that they are the "good stuff" or that they will make my car "handle better" than modern tires - YMMV Sorry, but that is where you are wrong. Your car will handle better on a period 165HR15 or at a stretch a period 185/70VR15 than it will on a 195/65R15. That is just a fact. Yep a wider more modern tyre will give you greater grip in a straight line than a 165R15. but in the corners it won't unless you modify the car to suit. these cars aren't set up for modern low profile square shouldered tyres unless you lower them, add adverse camber and stiffen the springs etc. but then you aren't making them handle better quite the opposite, but you are arguably giving them greater road holding which is different. but they won't be anywhere near as nice to drive. |
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