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> Car running like crap, 4 days before Hershey
saigon71
post Apr 16 2019, 07:29 PM
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Could use some "check this" help:

Running a 2056 D-jet.

Over the winter I adjusted the valves and changed the oil. It didn't need much else.

This Spring, I installed a new distributor cap and new set of points. Adjusted dwell to 50 degrees before setting timing dead on at 27 degrees BTDC.

The car was running awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

All of the sudden, the car has developed a pretty serious intermittent miss. There have been times it runs flawless on a test drive, only to start sputtering the next drive. When the sputtering and bucking occurs, there is sometimes an audible "pop" or "knock" sound coming from the engine bay.

I've got a new FI wiring harness from Jeff Bowlsby installed.

So far I have done the following:

-Check fuel lines for kinks
-Added "Star-Tron" enzyme fuel treatment to fuel stored in tank for winter, have since added two tanks of fresh gas
-Fuel steady pressure at 31PSI (but I couldn't get the car to act up when I had the gauge attached)
-Verified point gap hadn't changed after setting dwell
-Verify that CHT is tight (CHT is almost new)
-Cleaned & adjusted trigger points
-Unplugged TPS - it did not make a difference
-Checked FI harness grounds at the back of the engine
-Pulled all 4 spark plugs to check for fouling - they all looked good
-Swapped the coil with a known good one

Any advice on other things to check would be appreciated.
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post Apr 17 2019, 07:17 PM
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Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when running? At what RPM are you at? If 12.5V is at the battery, you have an issue. Also what is the voltage at the coil?

With the engine running at high idle like 2k, measure all 3 pins of the VR with respect to chassis ground. Not the engine but the chassis. D+ should be 13.5V, DF should be 6-10V and D- should be less than 0.5V. All voltages DC. Don't disconnect anything; just jam the DMM probe into the connector to the VR.
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post Apr 17 2019, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Apr 17 2019, 09:17 PM) *

Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when running? At what RPM are you at? If 12.5V is at the battery, you have an issue. Also what is the voltage at the coil?

With the engine running at high idle like 2k, measure all 3 pins of the VR with respect to chassis ground. Not the engine but the chassis. D+ should be 13.5V, DF should be 6-10V and D- should be less than 0.5V. All voltages DC. Don't disconnect anything; just jam the DMM probe into the connector to the VR.


13.6 running without lights on, 12.5 running with the lights on. Both measurements taken at the battery, car idling at 1100 rpm or so.

I'll run your other tests tomorrow after work.
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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Apr 17 2019, 09:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Apr 17 2019, 09:17 PM) *

Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when running? At what RPM are you at? If 12.5V is at the battery, you have an issue. Also what is the voltage at the coil?

With the engine running at high idle like 2k, measure all 3 pins of the VR with respect to chassis ground. Not the engine but the chassis. D+ should be 13.5V, DF should be 6-10V and D- should be less than 0.5V. All voltages DC. Don't disconnect anything; just jam the DMM probe into the connector to the VR.


13.6 running without lights on, 12.5 running with the lights on. Both measurements taken at the battery, car idling at 1100 rpm or so.

I'll run your other tests tomorrow after work.


Does the battery voltage come up w/lights on as RPMs rise?
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saigon71   Car running like crap   Apr 16 2019, 07:29 PM
Minerva's 914   I would check the points, it's a cheap and eas...   Apr 16 2019, 07:36 PM
Big Len   I would check the points, it's a cheap and ea...   Apr 16 2019, 08:01 PM
wndsrfr   I would check the points, it's a cheap and ea...   Apr 17 2019, 06:07 AM
VaccaRabite   When the car is acting up, put a timing light on t...   Apr 17 2019, 06:30 AM
rgalla9146   Not mentioned: plenum and intake manifolds for va...   Apr 17 2019, 07:29 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   can you get it to do it when the car is stationary...   Apr 17 2019, 07:44 AM
saigon71   can you get it to do it when the car is stationar...   Apr 17 2019, 10:39 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   so rev the engine and pull one spark plug wire at ...   Apr 17 2019, 10:56 AM
Spoke   Does the tach bounce or jump when this happens? So...   Apr 17 2019, 10:56 AM
saigon71   Does the tach bounce or jump when this happens? S...   May 12 2019, 10:40 AM
saigon71   Update: The trigger to the poor running is turnin...   Apr 17 2019, 06:36 PM
Spoke   Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when r...   Apr 17 2019, 07:17 PM
saigon71   Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when ...   Apr 17 2019, 07:36 PM
Spoke   Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when...   Apr 17 2019, 07:37 PM
saigon71   [quote name='saigon71' post='2706320' date='Apr 1...   May 5 2019, 11:30 AM
saigon71   Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when ...   May 5 2019, 11:27 AM
Spoke   Where are you measuring the 13.6V and 12.5V when...   May 6 2019, 06:31 PM
Olympic 914   13.6 seems low. Had a recent issue where it was ...   Apr 18 2019, 07:46 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   13.6 is great, sounds like a grounding problem, ch...   Apr 18 2019, 09:43 AM
ctc911ctc   13.6 is great, sounds like a grounding problem, c...   Apr 18 2019, 01:22 PM
ejm   You need to check the voltage at coil terminal #15...   May 5 2019, 12:05 PM
saigon71   You need to check the voltage at coil terminal #1...   May 5 2019, 12:57 PM
saigon71   I swapped out the ignition switch with a new one. ...   May 5 2019, 02:33 PM
Spoke   BTW, what voltage do you have at the coil with gro...   May 6 2019, 08:08 PM
saigon71   BTW, what voltage do you have at the coil with gr...   May 12 2019, 10:58 AM
saigon71   Update: I've swapped out the distributor cap ...   May 12 2019, 11:30 AM
mepstein   Because of what I went through I’m still guessin...   May 12 2019, 12:03 PM
oakdalecurtis   My 76 2.0 Djet would miss intermittently for years...   May 12 2019, 12:14 PM
saigon71   My 76 2.0 Djet would miss intermittently for year...   May 12 2019, 06:12 PM
dralf   I have finally started working on a similar runnin...   May 15 2019, 07:41 AM
JmuRiz   Just a shot in the dark, how's the fuel filter...   May 15 2019, 10:19 AM
904svo   Just a WAG, check all the red leads on the battery...   May 15 2019, 10:35 AM
saigon71   Duplicate post - oops. <_<   May 15 2019, 10:39 AM
saigon71   I THINK (and hope) that I found what is causing th...   May 15 2019, 10:39 AM
VaccaRabite   Its a weird problem, and I would assume that the p...   May 15 2019, 07:13 PM
saigon71   Its a weird problem, and I would assume that the ...   May 18 2019, 03:06 PM
Big Len   One weird problem Bob. It's a new one for me.   May 18 2019, 06:41 PM
saigon71   I wanted to get plenty of driving in to make sure ...   Jun 2 2019, 06:44 PM
mepstein   :beer2:   Jun 2 2019, 06:51 PM
Dion   Nice one Bob. Glad they made good on the warranty ...   Jun 2 2019, 07:53 PM


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