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> Best type 4 engine rebuild book or guide?
Tdskip
post Apr 26 2019, 08:02 AM
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Looking to learn more about our engines, I've found rebuild guides to be a great resources on some of my other cars.

Is there a go-to source for these you can recommend?

Thanks!
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post Apr 26 2019, 11:17 AM
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Just a quick word as someone who has used both Haynes and Tom Wilson's books to rebuild engines. The Haynes is barely adequate to get the job done and is missing some stuff that you may regret not knowing later (like reusing old valves might grenade your engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ). Wilson's book is WAY better but lacks some information I've learned from this group about things that contribute to a quality build. Things like decking the case to make sure cylinder registers are even and perpendicular to the crank, and cc'ing heads for getting the compression ratio you want when setting deck height.

I'm not knocking those books. They are great (especially Wilson's book). I just wanted to share my experience of what was missing that I wish I had known.
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post Apr 26 2019, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Apr 26 2019, 01:17 PM) *

Just a quick word as someone who has used both Haynes and Tom Wilson's books to rebuild engines. The Haynes is barely adequate to get the job done and is missing some stuff that you may regret not knowing later (like reusing old valves might grenade your engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ). Wilson's book is WAY better but lacks some information I've learned from this group about things that contribute to a quality build. Things like decking the case to make sure cylinder registers are even and perpendicular to the crank, and cc'ing heads for getting the compression ratio you want when setting deck height.

I'm not knocking those books. They are great (especially Wilson's book). I just wanted to share my experience of what was missing that I wish I had known.


Agree - recommend both books. However, remember VW's are notoriously robust engines. The points you make differentiate a great rebuild from an average one.

I used both books referenced when I rebuilt my 1.7L to a 1.9L back in early 90' or 91' and didn't put in the attention to detail ( like decking the case, line boring, etc) and my engine went about 80,000 miles with no issues. Tough little buggers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

I had a early 70's VW bug (flat windshield) with a type 1 engine. Bought it for $50. After a few months of owning and driving it, at the gas station I noticed a huge puddle of oil had formed under it. Looked under it. No source of oil leakage. What the heck?

Started it and then looked under it. One of the cylinders was moving back and forth and when it moved out from the case, oil was leaking like mad.

Popped off the valve cover, tightened the bottom four cylinder head nuts. The top 4 can't be reached without pulling the tin so I had no choice but to leave them.

Being poor, in college, and lacking a place to properly fix it, I drove it several thousand miles with only the bottom 4 bolts tight. No more oil leaks. down on power some but it ran pretty darn good for about a year before I finally dropped the engine. Even then I just tightened up the upper head nuts and then ran it another couple thousand miles before I finally sold it for $75.00 to a guy that was using it for a sand rail donor.

Moral of the story - tough little buggers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Apr 26 2019, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Apr 26 2019, 11:52 AM) *

Agree - recommend both books. However, remember VW's are notoriously robust engines. The points you make differentiate a great rebuild from an average one.


Absolutely! and as fantastic as it is, Internet advice sometimes leans toward dogmatic which makes it difficult for a dummy like me to know what must be done for any decent build and understanding the benefits and trade-offs of the other things. I could expand on this with examples but won't.
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Tdskip   Best type 4 engine rebuild book or guide?   Apr 26 2019, 08:02 AM
Beebo Kanelle   Mr. Raby's "Type 4 Rebuild DVD" is a...   Apr 26 2019, 08:12 AM
JOEPROPER   Mr. Raby's "Type 4 Rebuild DVD" is ...   Apr 26 2019, 09:13 AM
mgphoto   Wilson VW engine rebuild book is great, a lot of t...   Apr 26 2019, 09:47 AM
914Sixer   If you want a book that will really give you all t...   Apr 26 2019, 09:49 AM
maf914   In the pre internet days I rebuilt my Type 4 engin...   Apr 26 2019, 09:58 AM
maf914   I wonder why my attachments stacked horizontally a...   Apr 26 2019, 10:00 AM
Tdskip   Thanks gentlemen!   Apr 26 2019, 10:44 AM
cashiersjm   Does Jake Raby still sell the video or where can i...   Apr 26 2019, 11:10 AM
rhodyguy   Bug Me Video.   Apr 26 2019, 11:12 AM
bbrock   Just a quick word as someone who has used both Hay...   Apr 26 2019, 11:17 AM
Superhawk996   Just a quick word as someone who has used both Ha...   Apr 26 2019, 11:52 AM
bbrock   Agree - recommend both books. However, remember ...   Apr 26 2019, 02:48 PM
Dave_Darling   They're all good, but none is perfect. If not...   Apr 26 2019, 11:56 AM
Tdskip   Ordered Wilson’s book, should make for some good...   Apr 27 2019, 06:16 AM
fixer34   Back in my VW days (late 60's/early 70's) ...   Apr 27 2019, 11:21 AM
Archie   Back in my VW days (late 60's/early 70's)...   May 23 2019, 11:57 AM
settador   Wilson's book, John Muir's idiot guide, an...   Apr 28 2019, 12:05 PM
Tjmrfe   Wilson's book, John Muir's idiot guide, a...   May 24 2019, 09:34 PM
Jake Raby   I've contemplated doing a new T4 rebuild video...   May 23 2019, 10:10 AM
mepstein   I've contemplated doing a new T4 rebuild vide...   May 23 2019, 11:37 AM
Beebo Kanelle   I've contemplated doing a new T4 rebuild vide...   May 23 2019, 12:25 PM
fiacra   I've contemplated doing a new T4 rebuild vide...   May 25 2019, 11:18 AM
doug_b_928   I purchased, and plan to use, your video. It woul...   May 23 2019, 10:21 AM
Tdskip   I’d order an updated version too - I think quite...   May 23 2019, 11:18 AM
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Jake Raby   If I decide to do it, I’ll make sure to let you ...   May 24 2019, 05:15 PM
mepstein   If I decide to do it, I’ll make sure to let you...   May 24 2019, 05:38 PM
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