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> SEALS - Different that orig, WAS: OIL: Flood, Leak and Seeps, Will they work ?
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post May 20 2019, 03:16 PM
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Please see the seal picture around post #9


All,

I had all three, Floods, Leaks and Seeps. I fixed the Flood, yes the valve cover HAS to go on with the VW logo upside down! So on to the leaks. I am down to one leak, the oils is dripping off of the oil filter, a drop a minute or two while running. This leak is NOT coming from the top of the engine. Oil pressure sending unit, oil filler (OEL)and the distributor are all tight, no leaks.

Took out the oil filter, let the car leak until it stopped dripping and got under the car.

OK, I spent an hour under the car. Pretty certain that the car is leaking from ABOVE the oil filter mounting bracket. Top of the braket and the bottom part of the oil cooler are covered in oil. Sooooo, after reading everything about this within these pages I found that the oil filter bracket AND the oil cooler could be removed WITHOUT removing the engine. GREAT!

So raised the car high, put it on jackstands AND 4x4 blocks (belt and suspenders) and slid underneath. took the first nut off the oil filter mount, then I went for the one on the back of the bracket.
A - Easy Bracket nut
B - Nut on top of bracket - seen through a mirror
C - Oil Pressure regulator Access Port
D - Above the Oil Cleaner bracket - covered with oil.

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As can be seen, the nut for the other half of the mount is overlapped by the oil cooler frame. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A WRENCH ON THIS!

Not sure what to do now, live with the leak until it is time to remove the engine?

Ideas, suggestions,

Many thanks in advance.

BTW, the seeps are all from the pushrod tubes, only one looks really bad, not sure I would venture to pull the tubes with the engine in the car, though I know it can be done.
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post May 24 2019, 07:48 AM
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Not sure I understand.

No special tools required other than a floor jack. Those are dirt cheap from HF. I used to do it with a small 1 ton hydraulic floor jack from K-Mart. If you have to tools to even contemplate an oil cooler project, you have what you need. Basic socket set, Vice Grips, and a hammer.

Jack stands. I hope you already are using a set if you're working under a vehicle.

Space. I've done engine drops in the dirt, outdoors. Use a piece of 1/2 or better yet 3/4 inch plywood to put under the car. Use this as the foundation upon which you can roll the hydraulic jack. "Extra" space needed is literally the 6 feet of space behind the car to accommodate the engine/trans when it's out. I've worked outdoors and had to cover the engine at night to keep rain off it. Any tarp will do the trick. Now if you're in the dirt and don't have access to plywood, I get it. I was once in that scenario and "rented" my bosses garage for a six pack . . . since I had no other options at the time being broke and in college . . . . if you can believe that.

Not trying to be a smart ass or anything just to be mean . . . Just want to reinforce that with the 6 hours or so that you already have into it this way, you could have been done. And when you're done, you'd know the seals are properly in place, on clean surfaces, and have been properly tightened.

I'm one of the worst for wanting to take short cuts. When I do it rarely works in my favor. I feel your pain and frustration because I've been there.

By all means, give the grease trick a try since you're at this point. Part of learning to wrench is learning when to give in and just do it "properly".
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post May 24 2019, 10:45 AM
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Got it - agree with you completely. So, here is the real reason:

I was surfing in Dec (something I have done all my life) and fell off the front of the wave and broke my back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) I know, pretty crazy. I can walk, but cannot lift ANYTHING. Laying on my back under the car is great - will recover 100% but it will take time before I am in the clear to lift or move or stretch.

Thank you VERY much for the encouragement SuperHawk!

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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ May 24 2019, 07:48 AM) *

Not sure I understand.

No special tools required other than a floor jack. Those are dirt cheap from HF. I used to do it with a small 1 ton hydraulic floor jack from K-Mart. If you have to tools to even contemplate an oil cooler project, you have what you need. Basic socket set, Vice Grips, and a hammer.

Jack stands. I hope you already are using a set if you're working under a vehicle.

Space. I've done engine drops in the dirt, outdoors. Use a piece of 1/2 or better yet 3/4 inch plywood to put under the car. Use this as the foundation upon which you can roll the hydraulic jack. "Extra" space needed is literally the 6 feet of space behind the car to accommodate the engine/trans when it's out. I've worked outdoors and had to cover the engine at night to keep rain off it. Any tarp will do the trick. Now if you're in the dirt and don't have access to plywood, I get it. I was once in that scenario and "rented" my bosses garage for a six pack . . . since I had no other options at the time being broke and in college . . . . if you can believe that.

Not trying to be a smart ass or anything just to be mean . . . Just want to reinforce that with the 6 hours or so that you already have into it this way, you could have been done. And when you're done, you'd know the seals are properly in place, on clean surfaces, and have been properly tightened.

I'm one of the worst for wanting to take short cuts. When I do it rarely works in my favor. I feel your pain and frustration because I've been there.

By all means, give the grease trick a try since you're at this point. Part of learning to wrench is learning when to give in and just do it "properly".

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QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ May 24 2019, 12:45 PM) *

So, here is the real reason:

I was surfing in Dec (something I have done all my life) and fell off the front of the wave and broke my back.


Well sheesh . . . that changes everything doesn't it.

Rest up . . . do what you can. I used to road race motorcycles (if you call running mid pack racing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) ). I completely understand now.

When you're busted up you just want to just do something that feels productive other than sitting around and thinking about how you can't wait to go back at it and see if you can bust yourself up again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

Do what you can - heal up and let us know how it goes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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ctc911ctc   SEALS - Different that orig, WAS: OIL: Flood, Leak and Seeps   May 20 2019, 03:16 PM
jdamiano   Oil cooler seals? I hunted a leak a few months ago...   May 20 2019, 04:56 PM
ctc911ctc   Was the leak on BOTH side of the engine or concent...   May 20 2019, 06:27 PM
rjames   Oil cooler seals? I hunted a leak a few months ag...   May 21 2019, 09:36 AM
ctc911ctc   OK, I am on it - cooler first! may have to buy...   May 21 2019, 11:58 AM
Mark Henry   OK, I am on it - cooler first! may have to bu...   May 21 2019, 12:03 PM
worn   OK, I am on it - cooler first! may have to b...   May 22 2019, 10:01 PM
Big Len   :popcorn: Same here.   May 20 2019, 07:36 PM
Mark Henry   The PR seals you have to disconnect the shift rod,...   May 21 2019, 08:38 AM
Dave_Darling   The PR seals you have to disconnect the shift rod...   May 22 2019, 12:37 PM
Big Len   I'll be with you in spirit ctc. Gonna attempt ...   May 21 2019, 03:32 PM
ctc911ctc   WHAT WOULD YOU DO????? This may be remedial for m...   May 21 2019, 06:44 PM
rjames   WHAT WOULD YOU DO????? This may be remedial for ...   May 22 2019, 12:32 PM
rhodyguy   Do? Spend an hour or so and drop the engine, pull ...   May 22 2019, 08:08 AM
cuddy_k   Do? Spend an hour or so and drop the engine, pull...   May 22 2019, 08:23 AM
ctc911ctc   Took the seals out - had to VERY gently pry the oi...   May 22 2019, 02:25 PM
ctc911ctc   Took the seals out - had to VERY gently pry the o...   May 22 2019, 06:52 PM
cuddy_k   Took the seals out - had to VERY gently pry the ...   May 22 2019, 10:20 PM
ChrisFoley   The old seals used to have the same shape as the n...   May 23 2019, 05:42 AM
ctc911ctc   Oil flood is back. :hissyfit: Pardon for the de...   May 23 2019, 05:53 PM
ChrisFoley   A bit of wheel bearing grease should keep them up ...   May 23 2019, 07:18 PM
rjames   Also try and clean the area out as best you can be...   May 23 2019, 10:48 PM
Superhawk996   :confused: Alright I'll be the jackass. . . ...   May 24 2019, 03:57 AM
ctc911ctc   :confused: Alright I'll be the jackass. . ....   May 24 2019, 07:17 AM
Superhawk996   Not sure I understand. No special tools require...   May 24 2019, 07:48 AM
ctc911ctc   Got it - agree with you completely. So, here is th...   May 24 2019, 10:45 AM
Superhawk996   So, here is the real reason: I was surfing in De...   May 24 2019, 10:54 AM
injunmort   len, you following this? come over, do it on the l...   May 24 2019, 08:24 AM
rjames   One of the reasons I didn't drop the engine wh...   May 24 2019, 11:03 AM
Superhawk996   One of the reasons I didn't drop the engine w...   May 24 2019, 11:07 AM
ctc911ctc   I missed the titanium cage by about a 2-3 feet of ...   May 24 2019, 06:58 PM
rjames   Fractured my neck in two places body surfing in ...   May 24 2019, 07:23 PM
ctc911ctc   No oil Leaks! Just some minor seeps! Took...   May 28 2019, 08:08 AM
Big Len   Congrats. I got so frustrated with the seals I had...   May 28 2019, 08:06 PM
rjames   Doesn’t take much oil burning to make a lot of s...   May 28 2019, 11:30 PM


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