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| yeahmag |
 Jun 26 2019, 03:29 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California 
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Is there any known method that doesn't require me to stand on my head in the engine compartment to see the back of the fan to time the car. I'm tired of bruised ribs...
-Aaron |
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| bandjoey |
Jun 26 2019, 04:14 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,923 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
4" mirror propped up on the fan case at a 45* angle and a strong light shinning on the mirror. That reflects light down into the hole and you can see the timing marks. timing light is visible in the mirror doing the same trick. That's how I do it.
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| jcd914 |
Jun 26 2019, 04:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Jun 26 2019, 03:14 PM)  4" mirror propped up on the fan case at a 45* angle and a strong light shinning on the mirror. That reflects light down into the hole and you can see the timing marks. timing light is visible in the mirror doing the same trick. That's how I do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have used this method and it works. But usually I just lean over the engine compartment, it is uncomfortable and awkward but only take a minute or two. Jim |
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| Geezer914 |
Jun 26 2019, 06:08 PM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States
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Paint a line on the edge of the fan directly across from the timing mark.
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| 914werke |
Jun 26 2019, 06:35 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I recently was cursing this process myself, for the longest time I had simply been resting my articulating pen mirror on the oil fill cap to see, finally broke down & bought a decent mirror.
The other minor bitch is the supposed notch on flywheel's to confirm TDC, Ya right! after 40+ yrs 5 out of 7 cars I checked on hand had no Notch~. |
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| Mark Henry |
Jun 26 2019, 07:53 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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| Ed_Turbo |
Jun 26 2019, 08:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 26 2019, 06:53 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-26-1497236248.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-26-1497554426.jpg) Great idea. Porsche should of thought of that. Oh hey since you are in Pasadena there is a cool car show this Friday the 28th at Lake Ave. Church. Nice environment, free bbq, and cool cars. -Ed |
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| yeahmag |
Jun 26 2019, 08:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California
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Ed,
Do you have a link to that show? |
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| Ed_Turbo |
Jun 26 2019, 08:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jun 26 2019, 07:19 PM) Ed, Do you have a link to that show? Classic Car Nights - Lake Avenue Church Cheers man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) -Ed |
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| 914sgofast2 |
Jun 26 2019, 08:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jun 26 2019, 02:29 PM) Is there any known method that doesn't require me to stand on my head in the engine compartment to see the back of the fan to time the car. I'm tired of bruised ribs... -Aaron Easy! Buy a bottle of Whiteout and mark all three timing marks on the fan where you can see them. |
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| era vulgaris |
Jun 28 2019, 06:59 AM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
If you have dual carbs, you can push the rear tin back and use the TDC mark on the flywheel to set your timing. Of course then you also need a variable timing light. It's a lot easier than trying to peek into the fan shroud.
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| ClayPerrine |
Jun 28 2019, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 26 2019, 09:02 PM) Great idea. Porsche should of thought of that. -Ed I think that is a TERRIBLE idea. It has the name FIREWALL for a reason. Been there, done that, fixed the burned 914. I won't have a hole in a Firewall. |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jun 29 2019, 05:17 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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4 or 6? 4 cyl case has a hole on the passenger side of what I'd call the bell housing, so you can put timing marks on the back face of the flywheel that are seen through the round hole
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| Mark Henry |
Jun 29 2019, 08:17 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 29 2019, 12:22 AM) QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 26 2019, 09:02 PM) Great idea. Porsche should of thought of that. -Ed I think that is a TERRIBLE idea. It has the name FIREWALL for a reason. Been there, done that, fixed the burned 914. I won't have a hole in a Firewall. No different from the access hatch on a VW bus, type 3, type 4.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'd agree if it was FG or thin aluminum but it's all metal and bolted in. In fact my hatch is overkill as I used two firewalls and sandwiched/welded them together double thick. In a fire if you're still in there by the time it started breaching the hatch you're already in a lot of trouble, hatch or not. |
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| rgalla9146 |
Jun 29 2019, 08:53 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(914sgofast2 @ Jun 26 2019, 10:39 PM) QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jun 26 2019, 02:29 PM) Is there any known method that doesn't require me to stand on my head in the engine compartment to see the back of the fan to time the car. I'm tired of bruised ribs... -Aaron Easy! Buy a bottle of Whiteout and mark all three timing marks on the fan where you can see them. And while you're at it mark the flywheel too. |
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