Installed new starter., strange sound ensues... |
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Installed new starter., strange sound ensues... |
olav |
Jun 26 2005, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I installed a new high torque starter and now once-in-awhile the starter geer seems to ram my flywheel instead of engaging the flywheel teeth. A horrible sound is made. When I try to start again it works. Any ideas how to fix this? |
xsboost90 |
Jun 26 2005, 04:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
does it require shims or is it clocked correctly? i know some of them fit differently than stock, maybe it need to be shimmed to clear?
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olav |
Jun 26 2005, 05:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
So, is shimming trial and error? I wonder if I can measure the old one and see the diff with the new one. But measure where if that is an option. I must be off a very little bit since this seems to happen 10% of the time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jun 26 2005, 09:52 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
you can compare the two starters. measure from the mounting surface to the front of the teeth and see if that is different. it sounds like your new starter just barely catches the flywheel ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy |
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olav |
Jun 27 2005, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
It's one of those starters that Pelican parts sell. It's supposed to be plug-n-play. Guess not unless it's defective. Drat! |
SirAndy |
Jun 27 2005, 12:35 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
they should be. i got one as well and it's working just fine ... did your old starter have the same problem? if so your flywheel teeth might be chewed up. wouldn't be the first ringgear with shaved teeth that i have seen ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif) Andy |
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olav |
Jun 27 2005, 12:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
Nope, my olden starter works great. I just replaced it with the hi torque starter because once my engine gets warm, no starty; or barely turns over. |
ClayPerrine |
Jun 27 2005, 12:55 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,465 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I just put a gear reduction starter on Betty's 914. It sounds really different (read weird) from the stock starter, but it works great.
Are you sure it's just not the difference in the starters? Or is it not engaging at all? |
olav |
Jun 27 2005, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
Pretty sure it's just bouncing off the flywheel and just spinning. Makes the flywheel "gong" sound to boot. And since it's not engaging it really spins fast. After the spinning I try again to start it and it engages fine. I wonder if the starter is problematic? I'll look under the car again to double check everthing is hunky-dorry though. |
olav |
Jun 27 2005, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I ended up phoning the manufacturer in So. Cal. and they offered some ideas which I will follow up on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) |
xsboost90 |
Jun 27 2005, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
try running another ground to it..even temporary. My stock one would just spin and not engage at first, then i ran a ground and its perfect.
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Jeroen |
Jun 27 2005, 04:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
so ya gonna share, or gonna keep 'em secret (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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olav |
Jun 27 2005, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
Depends if the info works or not. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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olav |
Jun 27 2005, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
Mine works but sometimes misses engaging the ring geer and grinds on it. Ouch! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) |
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