914rubber door handles, Any experience with them? |
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914rubber door handles, Any experience with them? |
horizontally-opposed |
Jul 6 2019, 02:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Did a search and didn't see anything, but perhaps I didn't do the search right.
Specifically interested in fitment and how close they are to factory NOS...as well as any design improvements? Mine work okay, but the chrome is tired and the thought of rechroming fatigued metal is unappealing. NOS means a search, while I wonder about the quality of later factory parts given what we've seen. The 914rubber pieces could be a nice alternative, but I'd love some pics and feedback from those who bought them. Thanks in advance! pete |
ConeDodger |
Jul 6 2019, 02:18 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,553 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Pete,
Matt Whitesell has just about everything they sell on his car. Plus he drives the snot out of it so if there are failure issues, he’d experience them like a customer. If he or Mark don’t respond, PM me and I’ll give you their phone numbers. Rechroming works great but make sure the understand not to rechrome the articulating surfaces or the parts will be junk. |
Matty900 |
Jul 6 2019, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hi Pete,
That is a part we stock, not one that we make. They are a good reproduction part that is way less hassle than trying to re chome original parts. We have sold quite a few and I am not aware of anyone having any issues with them. Cheers, Matt |
914Sixer |
Jul 6 2019, 06:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,863 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Just my 2 cents. Reproductions are not good quality. Chrome is POOR and the lock barrels are not correct requiring modifications.
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Krieger |
Jul 6 2019, 07:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,693 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Hi Pete. Just a thought. Maybe rechrome a few old sets to get the economy and extra sets if you break. 3 lefts and a 2 rights? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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JamesM |
Jul 7 2019, 01:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,888 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Just my 2 cents. Reproductions are not good quality. Chrome is POOR and the lock barrels are not correct requiring modifications. Had issues with the lock barrel on one i picked up from Sierra Madre as well (guessing they are the same supplier). Noticeable difference in quality from OEM. |
bdstone914 |
Jul 7 2019, 07:58 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,508 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
@horizontally-opposed
QUOTE Specifically interested in fitment and how close they are to factory NOS...as well as any design improvements? Mine work okay, but the chrome is tired and the thought of rechroming fatigued metal is unappealing. NOS means a search, while I wonder about the quality of later factory parts given what we've seen. The 914rubber pieces could be a nice alternative, but I'd love some pics and feedback from those who bought them. Thanks in advance! pete Pete, I sold one set of the aftermarket outside door handles while I was with Pelican and the customer had to modify them to fit. The section for the lock cylinder was too long. As @914sixer pointed out the aftermarket ones do not have a good rap. But some of the new genuine Porsche parts are not so great either. Replating them is tricky. A local shop wanted $100 per handle with no guaranteed as they were pot metal. I would be more inclined to find a good speciality chrome plater for restoring vintage parts. Hemmings has a lot of listings. Bruce Bruce |
ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2019, 08:27 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,553 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Ogden Chrome charged me about $100 and shipping was free. Again, be sure to emphasize, nothing chromed below the face of the handle. Those dimensions mustn’t change...
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Mikey914 |
Jul 7 2019, 11:26 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Well,
If the consensus is that they are crap perhaps we need to make them? |
horizontally-opposed |
Jul 7 2019, 01:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Well, If the consensus is that they are crap perhaps we need to make them? First and foremost: Thanks for all of the parts you make for these cars. I was on your site and looking through things and you have added so much to the ability of enthusiasts to own and actually use the 914 some 50 years after it appeared. There are a lot of parts. One thing that would be nice to know is when a part is something you've made, as I know you're just as skeptical of some of the reproductions out there as many of us are. There are some "hard parts" for the 914 that are NLA but high use/wear, which makes redoing original parts less attractive. Front bumpers are one, door handles are another. Both seem like fairly complex pieces. I'll look into Ogden chrome, but I doubt I am alone in a willingness to buy a pair of really good NEW repros to put in a box for later since the originals are just pot metal. In the meantime, thanks again for what you do for this community. So good to see you making a good go of it! |
Mikey914 |
Jul 7 2019, 01:50 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yeah as more Chinese stuff enters the market it's a matter of educating the differences. I'm actually unsure of the origin of the handles but I know brand U dosen't list them so I sell them. I don't mind helping other parts providers is the quality is "acceptable" but there are some I will not sell.
Yes a fairly complicated part, but could be worth another look. I did have a few ideas on how they could even be improved without being cosmetically different that OEM. Mark |
wes |
Jul 7 2019, 01:54 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,588 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
Wasn’t there someone looking into doing these in stainless steel sometime back?
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Mikey914 |
Jul 8 2019, 10:18 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I was the one, until these came out. We can do stainless, but it's with the new ones so inexpensive it didn't seem like a path that would pan out in either. I do think we could do these in stainless but not sure if they pencil out.
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burton73 |
Jul 8 2019, 11:27 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,486 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
10 years ago, I looked at doing these in brass in lost wax process in China. That would have taken care of the problem of these breaking. Price point was too high for most of the people here.
Bob B |
mb911 |
Jul 8 2019, 04:33 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I would love to see a quality part .. Stainless is an interesting idea..
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76-914 |
Jul 8 2019, 04:55 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,485 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Yeah as more Chinese stuff enters the market it's a matter of educating the differences. I'm actually unsure of the origin of the handles but I know brand U dosen't list them so I sell them. I don't mind helping other parts providers is the quality is "acceptable" but there are some I will not sell. Yes a fairly complicated part, but could be worth another look. I did have a few ideas on how they could even be improved without being cosmetically different that OEM. Mark IMHO, This is one of those "must have" items. I regularly see nice used handles going for $200. If someone was offering a pair of quality replacement handles in the $700-800 range they'd sell. Maybe more? |
URY914 |
Jul 8 2019, 05:52 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,056 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
10 years ago, I looked at doing these in brass in lost wax process in China. That would have taken care of the problem of these breaking. Price point was too high for most of the people here. Bob B Hey Bob. You talked to me back then about giving you some on the good ones I have. Remember people the bodies can be repaired. I've repaired a few dozen over the years. But if you break the flapper handle section you're screwed. |
burton73 |
Jul 8 2019, 07:30 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,486 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
10 years ago, I looked at doing these in brass in lost wax process in China. That would have taken care of the problem of these breaking. Price point was too high for most of the people here. Bob B Hey Bob. You talked to me back then about giving you some on the good ones I have. Remember people the bodies can be repaired. I've repaired a few dozen over the years. But if you break the flapper handle section you're screwed. I remember, The business of making 914 parts is a fine line between art, and hobby versus a, well, a profitable true business. The majority of people want the lowest cost part. In the past 914 guys have been very cheap. Bob B |
JamesM |
Jul 8 2019, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,888 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Remember people the bodies can be repaired. I've repaired a few dozen over the years. But if you break the flapper handle section you're screwed. I have a pile of broken ones, most of which its the flapper portion that is broken. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
mb911 |
Jul 8 2019, 08:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I personally believe the new threshold currently is 200-300 each but that is still allot.. Can the current repos just be modified and rechromed economically?
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