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> Calling all 3.2 converters, Looking for data about KEP kit
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post Jul 12 2019, 04:01 PM
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Edit: what I was looking for was some sort of response, yeah or nay about clutch cable trave.. My experience with a 2002 era kit (bought years later from someone who decided not to install it) has been that disengagement only occurs at very last end of pedal travel. This with little if any pedal free play. The instructions I got from KEP told me that the clutch would require “1.5 inches of cable travel”. The stock 914 pedal cluster isn’t up to such hurdles - less than an inch in my experience.
I am hoping to hear from others with a 3.2 (the lucky) if they had been able to plug and play or if they too had difficulties generating enough cable travel. I think I have a simple fix, but also am worried that I have made some dumb-ass mistake in assembly.
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Hi folks. I love my 3.2 engine in the 72 914 but am having clutch issues. I bought the conversion package from an enthusiast who decided not to complete their project. The ring works perfectly with the starter and i have no real problems except tgat i am grinding gears going into first and reverse.
The clutch kit directions date to 2002 and state that there should be 1.5 inches of clutch cable travel. This may explain why when i have taken up all of the pedal free play i still cannot quite completely disengage the clutch with the pedal down. It almost works: i can get into first if i shift while rolling. I can get into reverse if i select it before turning on the motor.
I find that the bell crank at the pedal moves a little less than 0.75 inches, and the trunnion at the end of the cable moves by the same amount. This is a far cry from an inch and a half. I can make some work arounds, but figure i probably have made a mistake: no one else seems to be having this trouble. Help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE(worn @ Jul 12 2019, 02:01 PM) *

Hi folks. I love my 3.2 engine in the 72 914 but am having clutch issues. I bought the conversion package from an enthusiast who decided not to complete their project. The ring works perfectly with the starter and i have no real problems except tgat i am grinding gears going into first and reverse.
The clutch kit directions date to 2002 and state that there should be 1.5 inches of clutch cable travel. This may explain why when i have taken up all of the pedal free play i still cannot quite completely disengage the clutch with the pedal down. It almost works: i can get into first if i shift while rolling. I can get into reverse if i select it before turning on the motor.
I find that the bell crank at the pedal moves a little less than 0.75 inches, and the trunnion at the end of the cable moves by the same amount. This is a far cry from an inch and a half. I can make some work arounds, but figure i probably have made a mistake: no one else seems to be having this trouble. Help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Do you still have the pedal stop bumper in place, and have you tried first removing the rubber bumper and/or tried adjusting the stop for more pedal travel? I have that same setup in my street 3.2, but my parts were purchased back in 1990 or very early 1991. The only problems I had were related to the ring received from KEP didn't fit the flywheel the first time around and they had to do something to it. After that, it was all good as I can recall. It's been a while since I've converted one, but I know that I never had to shim the pivot ball to get more clutch cable travel. I know there is very little free play in my pedal.

I recall once upon a time, back in college I was driving my car to school one day and my clutch wouldn't totally disengage with the pedal all the way to the floor, it turned out that the roll pin for the pedal shaft had started to shear and the pedal and shaft would move with respect with each other. Something to check nonetheless.
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worn   Calling all 3.2 converters   Jul 12 2019, 04:01 PM
worn   I should add that i rewelded the clutch tube into ...   Jul 12 2019, 04:04 PM
lierofox   I ended up welding extra material to the lever arm...   Jul 12 2019, 04:10 PM
worn   I ended up welding extra material to the lever ar...   Jul 12 2019, 09:44 PM
mb911   Clutch cable stretched? Clutch arm needs washer un...   Jul 12 2019, 04:11 PM
wndsrfr   Clutch cable stretched? Clutch arm needs washer u...   Jul 12 2019, 07:37 PM
IronHillRestorations   I don't know if you can get 1.5" of movem...   Jul 12 2019, 06:00 PM
mepstein   Try taking up more slack from the clutch cable. It...   Jul 12 2019, 07:31 PM
914Toy   Your symptoms also suggest you may not have your l...   Jul 12 2019, 08:09 PM
worn   Your symptoms also suggest you may not have your ...   Jul 12 2019, 09:46 PM
jcd914   Do a hydraulic clutch conversion. You can then pic...   Jul 12 2019, 10:15 PM
Steve   I had a stage 2 kep clutch with my 3.2. I used 1/...   Jul 13 2019, 09:16 AM
worn   I had a stage 2 kep clutch with my 3.2. I used 1...   Jul 13 2019, 03:52 PM
Steve   I had a stage 2 kep clutch with my 3.2. I used ...   Jul 13 2019, 03:54 PM
John   Hi folks. I love my 3.2 engine in the 72 914 but...   Jul 15 2019, 11:33 AM
porschetub   Presuming all parts are newish shimming the ball p...   Jul 16 2019, 01:14 AM
a71914   I had the exact same problem with my 3.2 conversio...   Jul 16 2019, 11:18 AM
Dave_Darling   Is it the stock 901-based transmission? --DD   Jul 16 2019, 11:55 AM
mepstein   Is it the stock 901-based transmission? --DD Mu...   Jul 16 2019, 12:07 PM
worn   Is it the stock 901-based transmission? --DD So...   Jul 19 2019, 07:03 PM
larryM   washer under the pivot ball for the clutch fork. -...   Jul 20 2019, 10:26 PM


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