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> Think faded Copper Metallic can be paint matched?
Tdskip
post Jul 16 2019, 11:17 AM
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Bit of a long shot but wondering if it is possible to get a driver quality paint match on this Copper Metallic car? Rear trunk lid and then some scrapes needed improvement.

Faded paint doesn’t help, and Metallic may be a kiss of death..

Anyone been there and succeeded at that?

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post Jul 18 2019, 01:21 PM
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Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that.

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post Jul 19 2019, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jul 18 2019, 03:21 PM) *

Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that.

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ah, I sugguested it on my first post...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 19 2019, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Jul 19 2019, 08:11 AM) *

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jul 18 2019, 03:21 PM) *

Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that.

Thanks


ah, I sugguested it on my first post...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Hi - Bob suggested leaving the clear off but your post suggested spraying it.

I do appreciate all the ideas and responses. I have some welding to do on this one, will keep everyone posted.

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post Jul 19 2019, 05:52 PM
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Just saw this thread. Awesome that you have a 75 copper car! As you know it was a one-year color and is one of the rarest of all the 914 colors. I went through the VIN registry a while back and estimated that there were probably less than 20 left, at least in the US.

Not at all bragging - because it is a source of great pain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) - I may have more experience than anyone on the planet with Copper Metallic paint/wraps. I painted my 914 twice with L99K (first color coat didn't take, had to sand, reprime, respray, reclear). That's the one in the classifieds. I also own a - wait for it - copper wrapped 968. No joke.

Copper Metallic L99K is a really hard color to spray. The metallic likes to mottle and it's got to be sprayed under near-perfect conditions to avoid that. If I were to do it again I would go with super high grade basecoat - like Glasurit 90. The upside is that, for some reason, this color runs cheap. IIRC, it's only like 3-4 components so it's not hard for the supplier to mix.

3m makes a Liquid Copper wrap in their 1080 grade which is really really nice. It's more orange than L99K but it's probably close enough for a driver. I had it on my 968 3 years and it wore extremely well in the PNW winter.

Wrapping well is REALLY hard. If you have not done it before it is NOTHING like the youtube videos. The stuff sticks to everything; it tears; it color shifts when you try to heat it. OTOH, it's REALLY cheap compared with paint. You can get 75 feet of 3M 1080 wrap on Amazon for less than half what you would pay for just color & clear alone. So when you screw up, you just pull it off and start over. On that car, you could leave it on forever because you're not exactly worried about what's going to happen to the paint when you take it off.

If you go for it, I would vote to try wrapping. If you spray it, estimate about $800-$1K for materials if you go PPG on the low end (color and clear), much more if you go Glasurit etc. Of course Maaco is a different story... not a terrible idea really if its a driver and you do the prep yourself... It was over 200 hours of work prepping and painting my car.

Here's a mottled respray - this is 6 coats of color and 4 clear - mottling is purely due to technique not prep or coverage:

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Here's the corrected respray (did I mention this car is for sale? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ):

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For purposes of comparison - this is my 968 (it's no longer that color and I did NOT do the wrap myself):

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Tdskip   Think faded Copper Metallic can be paint matched?   Jul 16 2019, 11:17 AM
Chris914n6   Start with some elbow grease. See my Project Nugge...   Jul 16 2019, 01:04 PM
Tdskip   Start with some elbow grease. See my Project Nugg...   Jul 16 2019, 01:20 PM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2730408' date='Jul...   Jul 16 2019, 05:44 PM
DRPHIL914   Wow that is the most faded copper metallic car I h...   Jul 16 2019, 01:09 PM
Andyrew   Thats a respray in my opinion. I dont think you...   Jul 16 2019, 01:18 PM
Tdskip   Thats a respray in my opinion. I dont think you...   Jul 16 2019, 01:22 PM
KELTY360   It's gonna take a respray, but in the meantime...   Jul 16 2019, 01:46 PM
raynekat   It's gonna take a respray, but in the meantim...   Jul 16 2019, 03:58 PM
IronHillRestorations   Alex Buller and Barbara LaFargue in Oakley, CA had...   Jul 16 2019, 08:43 PM
Tdskip   Hi guys, thanks for the responses. This car was O...   Jul 16 2019, 09:32 PM
DRPHIL914   Hi guys, thanks for the responses. This car was ...   Jul 17 2019, 08:27 AM
Tdskip   Thanks, I agree that Olympic blue was a very hands...   Jul 17 2019, 08:33 AM
DRPHIL914   there is a downside to the restoration or repainti...   Jul 17 2019, 08:41 AM
mepstein   there is a downside to the restoration or repaint...   Jul 17 2019, 09:35 AM
Tdskip   Drive the car. If it gets scratched, fix it. If y...   Jul 17 2019, 12:03 PM
Olympic 914   Drive the car. If it gets scratched, fix it. If y...   Jul 18 2019, 11:26 AM
Larmo63   I saw that you were selling this car on eBay or Cr...   Jul 17 2019, 09:18 AM
Tdskip   I saw that you were selling this car on eBay or C...   Jul 17 2019, 12:02 PM
burton73   If you are trying to get away for cheap, just take...   Jul 18 2019, 12:24 PM
ValcoOscar   Here's another option....if on a tight budget....   Jul 18 2019, 12:55 PM
Tdskip   Here's another option....if on a tight budget...   Jul 18 2019, 01:23 PM
mepstein   Here's another option....if on a tight budget...   Jul 18 2019, 02:27 PM
Tdskip   Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that. Thanks   Jul 18 2019, 01:21 PM
DRPHIL914   Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that. Thanks...   Jul 19 2019, 07:11 AM
Tdskip   Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that. Thank...   Jul 19 2019, 04:07 PM
mzalanka   Just saw this thread. Awesome that you have a 75 c...   Jul 19 2019, 05:52 PM
DRPHIL914   Just saw this thread. Awesome that you have a 75 ...   Jul 19 2019, 06:09 PM
mzalanka   OMG, yes, anyone who can color spray metallics wel...   Jul 19 2019, 06:17 PM
Chris914n6   Was is hot or cold when it was removed? OMG, yes...   Jul 19 2019, 07:49 PM
mzalanka   [quote name='Chris914n6' date='Jul 19 ...   Jul 19 2019, 10:05 PM
burton73   Clever idea Bob, had not thought of that. Thanks...   Jul 19 2019, 11:15 AM
burton73   I tried some wrapping myself on projects hear in m...   Jul 18 2019, 01:45 PM
burton73   https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/85BC002D..._web...   Jul 18 2019, 01:56 PM
burton73   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8f8pi06Hs Good...   Jul 18 2019, 02:01 PM
burton73   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgNa0R6kz4w COO...   Jul 18 2019, 02:04 PM
ValcoOscar   Hey TD- Let's have a wrap session at my place...   Jul 18 2019, 03:29 PM
Ed_Turbo   Sell me that targa top broski :idea: -Ed   Jul 18 2019, 03:32 PM
ValcoOscar   TD- @TDskip I have some spare wrap and a few o...   Jul 19 2019, 12:17 PM
Tdskip   @ValcoOscar that would be fun, thanks for the off...   Jul 19 2019, 02:10 PM
Chris914n6   My experience has been that the digital print wrap...   Jul 19 2019, 05:24 PM
mepstein   Fellers.com has everything vinyl.   Jul 19 2019, 05:53 PM
Literati914   Just get someone to match the rear deck lid, but w...   Jul 19 2019, 11:59 PM
Tdskip   Just get someone to match the rear deck lid, but ...   Jul 20 2019, 09:44 AM


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