1939 Type 64, RM | Sotheby’s - August 15-17 2019 |
|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
1939 Type 64, RM | Sotheby’s - August 15-17 2019 |
Ed_Turbo |
Jul 17 2019, 10:35 AM
Post
#1
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
I am putting this topic up to talk about this amazing piece of car history here, which is just a tad under a month away. This is going to be exciting to watch and witness. Consider this a shop talk conversation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
My estimation would be 15-20m and I would not be surprised it went much higher. -Ed |
wes |
Jul 17 2019, 10:37 AM
Post
#2
|
wes Group: Members Posts: 1,588 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum!
|
Ed_Turbo |
Jul 17 2019, 10:43 AM
Post
#3
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum! Maybe VW group or Porsche will buy it and put it in a museum. This is going to truly be a bidder war. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
Beeliner |
Jul 17 2019, 10:53 AM
Post
#4
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 2-August 14 From: Fairfield, CT Member No.: 17,725 Region Association: North East States |
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum! Maybe VW group or Porsche will buy it and put it in a museum. This is going to truly be a bidder war. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) I remember Locomobile #16, the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup winner, being restored at my friend Manny's. The Ford Museum bought it, so don't despair.... Why not text-email- etc. to Porshe Corporate and suggest they acquire it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
sb914 |
Jul 17 2019, 11:08 AM
Post
#5
|
Surf Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,292 Joined: 25-November 12 From: Brookings,Oregon Member No.: 15,191 Region Association: Southern California |
In May 1945 American troops discovered the one put in storage, cut the roof off and used it for joyriding for a few weeks until the engine gave up and it was scrapped. The last remaining Porsche 64 was owned by Ferry Porsche who had it restored by Battista Farina in 1947. In 1949 it was sold to the Austrian motorcycle racer Otto Mathé and with it he won the Alpine Rally in 1950. The last time he drove it in a race was at the Monterey Historic Automobile Races in Monterey, California, in 1982.[citation needed] The one that was scrapped has also been rebuilt and is now on display in the Peterson Automotive Museum in Los Angeles, CA, shown on MotorWeek S37 Ep32 on 4/13/18.[2]
|
SirAndy |
Jul 17 2019, 11:52 AM
Post
#6
|
Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,581 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
|
Ed_Turbo |
Jul 17 2019, 12:43 PM
Post
#7
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
In May 1945 American troops discovered the one put in storage, cut the roof off and used it for joyriding for a few weeks until the engine gave up and it was scrapped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) That story never gets old (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) -Ed |
sixnotfour |
Jul 17 2019, 07:09 PM
Post
#8
|
914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,392 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
there will be more...and there are others..it will live on...
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Porsche-berlin-...11449365/posts/ |
Ed_Turbo |
Jul 17 2019, 10:15 PM
Post
#9
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
there will be more...and there are others..it will live on... https://www.facebook.com/pg/Porsche-berlin-...11449365/posts/ It will certainly live on, but not the link you provided (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Cool article @SirAndy -Ed |
90quattrocoupe |
Jul 18 2019, 12:52 AM
Post
#10
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 4-November 16 From: Long Beach, CA. Member No.: 20,561 Region Association: Southern California |
|
sixnotfour |
Jul 18 2019, 12:59 AM
Post
#11
|
914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,392 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
not trying to defile the history,,,iust saying, its the subject of several body builders...the OG ones are awesome, but the one is rebuilt..all good just noticed it in the back of a few ,,,metal smiths..shops
|
Dion |
Jul 18 2019, 08:49 AM
Post
#12
|
RN Group: Members Posts: 2,754 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I need this as a poster for the garage. So cool.
Attached thumbnail(s) |
Ed_Turbo |
Jul 18 2019, 06:03 PM
Post
#13
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
I need this as a poster for the garage. So cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I like this picture too: Totally Porsche PCA guy mancave/house art. -Ed |
Ed_Turbo |
Aug 15 2019, 06:22 PM
Post
#14
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
Check this article out guys. A buddy told me about it. According to Frank Jung, head of the historical archives in Porsche, and Andy Prill, a mechanical engineer and owner of Prill Porsche Classics in England, says this is not the “first” Porsche. Here comes the controversy:
Bloomberg Article: The $20 Million Nazi Porsche That May Not Be a Porsche at All Now this is making me think that this is just a publicity stunt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Going to watch the auction and see what happens this weekend. -Ed |
Bruce Edge |
Aug 18 2019, 09:39 AM
Post
#15
|
Old School 914 Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 6-December 16 From: South Carolina Member No.: 20,646 Region Association: None |
Did anyone watch the auction.
A very confused mess to me. I'm not even sure the car sold. I'm also thinking it was all an intended stunt. Such a significant car, looks like they could have done a classier job than that IMHO.. Bruce e https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LRE7kXcUvA |
Larmo63 |
Aug 18 2019, 09:57 AM
Post
#16
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
$17,000,000.00...........?
|
rhodyguy |
Aug 18 2019, 10:03 AM
Post
#17
|
Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,042 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Yep and Pulled. Good write up on Bloomberg. The pundits were a little overly optimistic. Sounds like the auction on this car was a mess.
|
Ed_Turbo |
Aug 18 2019, 10:31 AM
Post
#18
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 440 Joined: 5-June 17 From: Hacienda Heights, Ca. Member No.: 21,151 Region Association: Southern California |
Good read for your morning coffee, who has the guts to write a headline like that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Porsche’s Type 64 Nazi Car Fails to Sell in Auction Blunder Quote I snipped out from the article: QUOTE Others, including the man who inspected the car for RM Sotheby’s before it went to sale, were careful to note that the Type 64 is not technically a “Porsche.” Its engine and most of its parts were supplied by Volkswagen, with components from Fiat and other niche suppliers of the time. Ferdinand Porsche was building cars for just about everyone in Germany at the time anyway, including Daimler and Auto Union. Porsche AG wasn’t even founded until 1948—10 years after this car was built—so it surely isn’t accurate to call it a true Porsche, the line of thinking goes. Kinda typical Porsche snobbery downgrading it because it has Volkswagen parts. They obviously don’t know early Porsche/VW history. Sotheby’s definitely got greedy and tried to purposely inflate the market. Isn’t that called stock manipulation? Collectors and investors are upset. I don’t know if the “first” Porsche is a correct description (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) -Ed |
dirk2056 |
Aug 18 2019, 06:31 PM
Post
#19
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 31-July 17 From: cincinnati/Eastside Member No.: 21,304 Region Association: Middle East |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) R&M can sell a $ 500 wreck but total screwed up a $ 10,000,000 plus car sounds
like the Audi Union Car a few years ago???? |
Tdskip |
Aug 18 2019, 07:07 PM
Post
#20
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,674 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Apparently the auction started at a crazy high number by mistake and then they had to reverse it and at that point in time there were confusied bids being placed. The whole thing just was a mess.
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 29th March 2024 - 02:21 AM |
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |