Horsepower for all the (common) Porsche engine options |
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Horsepower for all the (common) Porsche engine options |
Tdskip |
Jul 21 2019, 07:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Seems like a useful thing to have summarized somewhere. While you can build just about auybof these to be a monster compared to stock, how about if we list stock values for now as one reference point?
1.7 flat 4 - 79 1.8 flat 4 - 84 2.0 flat 4 - 99 2.0 flat 6 - 109 2.2 flat 6 - 2.4 flat 6 - 2.7 flat 6 - 150-200 3.0 flat 6 - 3.2 flat 6 - 213-240 3.6 flat 6 - 275-300 Look like the right list? |
mepstein |
Jul 21 2019, 08:05 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,245 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sort of. Engine power varied by year and spec. For example, a 914-6 was about 110hp but a 69-911S was about 180-190hp. Both 2.0 engines. Even US vs ROW could vary 10-20 hp.
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Big Len |
Jul 21 2019, 09:51 AM
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Cairo94507 |
Jul 21 2019, 10:03 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,719 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
My '87 3.2 was 217 stock I believe. I believe with the 964 cams, Steve Wong chip and Ben's full exhaust I should be at 240. At least that is what I am told. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Larmo63 |
Jul 21 2019, 10:35 AM
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Steve |
Jul 21 2019, 10:41 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,570 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
My stock euro 3.2 is supposed to put out 231 hp with stock exhaust and catalytic converter. My car has no cat, but also has Steve Wong chip, MB heat exchangers and muffler. So at least 240 hp.
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bbrock |
Jul 21 2019, 10:46 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sort of. Engine power varied by year and spec. For example, a 914-6 was about 110hp but a 69-911S was about 180-190hp. Both 2.0 engines. Even US vs ROW could vary 10-20 hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Plus, later model cars had more emission controls that reduced hp a bit. |
GeorgeRud |
Jul 21 2019, 11:28 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My 2.7 Henry Schmidt built engine (RS P/C, S cams, Weber’s) dyno’d at 199.5 at the rear wheels. The torque advantages of the larger engines are nice however.
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jfort |
Jul 21 2019, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,134 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Findlay, OH Member No.: 652 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My 2.7 by Jay Kjoller dyno’d at 197 at the wheels. JE Pistons, Solex cam, DFI twin spark, PMO’s. The sound and the power are intoxicating
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Tdskip |
Jul 21 2019, 02:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Those sound like especially healthy 2.7 builds gentlemen.
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GeorgeRud |
Jul 21 2019, 03:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It’s a very nice choice for a -6 conversion without the DME complications of the 3.2 or 3.6. A carbed 3.0 SC motor would be great as well once you replace the pistons and cams with ones that are not so limiting (and also replace any Dilivar studs).
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ConeDodger |
Jul 21 2019, 03:38 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,569 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Supposed to be 207HP US Spec 3.2. Marty’s headers, no Cat, K&N, I’d guess 225HP?
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SirAndy |
Jul 21 2019, 04:14 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,607 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Stock 3.6L aircooled, naturally aspirated, HP range from 272 - 285
With headers, Steve Wong chip and some other minor improvements you can get in the 305 range. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
mepstein |
Jul 21 2019, 04:51 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,245 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My '87 3.2 was 217 stock I believe. I believe with the 964 cams, Steve Wong chip and Ben's full exhaust I should be at 240. At least that is what I am told. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Mine is similar. 964 cams, euro compression, slightly stiffer springs to rev to 7K and a custom SW chip to run on 93 was dynoed at 244 by the PO. Next engine will be 3.4 with Sal's custom MAF, injectors and chip to hopefully get to 280. A early 915 trans with 7:31 ring and pinion for a quick getaway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Tdskip |
Jul 21 2019, 05:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Those cars must MOVE.
How about 2.2, 2.4 and 3.0? I think 2.2 was around 125, and 2.4 about 140? 3.0 around 175-220? |
raynekat |
Jul 21 2019, 06:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,154 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
1.7 flat 4 - 79
1.8 flat 4 - 84 2.0 flat 4 - 99 2.0 flat 6 - 109 2.2 flat 6 - 130, 155, 180 (T, E and S) 2.4 flat 6 - 140, 165, 190 (T, E and S) 2.7 flat 6 - 150-200 210, 230-245 2.7MFI 8.5:1 and 2.7MFI hi comp 3.0 flat 6 - 180 - 204hp 3.2 flat 6 - 213-240 3.6 flat 6 - 275-300 All of the hp's above can be improved upon if you stray away from factory setups/specs. I'm getting 230hp out of a factory spec 2.7MFI with a great space cam and 310hp out of a 3.6Vram motor (ECU'd, sport cams) on a couple of my cars. |
mb911 |
Jul 21 2019, 07:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,816 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Larmo is likely a little light on hp numbers for his 2.4 setup and is exactly the same as mine.. Henry from supertec expected mine to be about 200.. And that is for a 2.4..
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Larmo63 |
Jul 21 2019, 07:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Larmo is likely a little light on hp numbers for his 2.4 setup and is exactly the same as mine.. Henry from supertec expected mine to be about 200.. And that is for a 2.4.. I'm a grow-er.................not a show-er. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Tdskip |
Jul 22 2019, 08:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Great discussion gentlemen, good to have this all in one place.
I think the next interesting thing to collectively have a chat about is the crossover point on horsepower versus cost building out a more powerful flat four versus swapping in a six. I know that’s apples versus oranges and how the car feels, but I think it would still be useful. For example, total cost to build 130 hp flat for versus total cost to get that same horsepower with a flat six. |
Marv's3.6six |
Jul 22 2019, 08:22 AM
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Actual member 7" Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California |
My engine builder estimated HP for my 3.6 @ 320-325 engine is a 95 993 ROW engine (Canada) Cylinder heads massaged & milled to increase compression 1/2 point to 11.7 to 1. WebCam RS cams for 993 with hydraulic lifters. Fuel injectors blueprinted & match flowed. Patrick Motorsports intake & filter. MSDS 1 3/4" headers. B&B loud ass muffler. Steve Wong custom 993 chip. 7000 rpm red line. 11 lb flywheel. Yada yada.
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