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> 2.7 CIS, Another six conversion
John
post Aug 13 2019, 09:09 AM
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I tried searching, but didn't get much.

What is involved with fitting a 2.7 with CIS in a 914? I can figure out the plumbing and the electrical, but I believe that I had read long ago that it was a PITA to fit CIS without cutting anything or perhaps a mixture of different parts could be used or parts of the intake could be relocated in order to get it all to fit. I'd prefer to avoid cutting this 914 engine compartment since I'm trying to make this one appear mostly factory. Any advice or better yet pictures would be appreciated.

I'd rather not go with carbs, since I believe that I'd need to swap cams and pistons in order to do it right.

This one is only going to be a fun street car (I already have a dedicated track car)

(All my conversion experience has been with 3.2s, but I have this body, and I have this engine...)


Thanks in advance!
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post Nov 5 2020, 10:34 PM
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Anyone know or remember a member here REZRON? This tub was bought from him way back in 2005 and sat for many years (in my Dad's garage until 2016). It was supposed to be a tub from CA and had some damage to the passenger side long, and I knew both front fenders had been replaced and the passenger side wasn't attached. The hell hole is solid, and most of the rear end is rust free and original paint underneath.

The doors fit well enough (better than most I've seen). I replaced portions of the passenger side long after pulling the pinch seam back straight.

I started on the rear flares and all went well, so I moved to the front. Ran into issues in the front that I wasn't aware of. I knew the passenger side fender was not attached which I didn't mind, and I knew the drivers side had been replaced. What I had failed to notice was that the underside of the bottom of the front trunk was badly beaten up. The inside of the front trunk appeared straight.

Someone had used filler to flatten out the inside of the front trunk and failed to straighten out the sheet metal or even paint it during some repair at some point. I found this when beating out a dent inside the passenger side front inner fender and the bondo popped. Bad on me for not checking until now. I recall that REZRON was supposed to have been a a body shop person. Looking back, I should have known, but still makes me mad as there wasn't disclosure about the floor of the front trunk, the bulkhead in front of the gas tank and the area between the bulkhead and the firewall in front of the passenger compartment. After searching the threads and reading some of his threads from 15+ years ago, there were indications that someone in the past had performed some poor repairs in the front, but wasn't made clear at the time of sale. Luckily, this thing was cheap and it isn't rusty.

Many hours later (and much frustration), I have removed all the plastic filler in the front trunk, used a hammer and dolly (and other straightening devices for many hours and days) to straighten the floor, bulkhead, inner fenders, and area between the bulkhead and the firewall. Pretty sure I invented a few new phrases for DAPO's.

I have checked and verified the suspension pick-up points to be accurate and I can now proceed to re-attaching the passenger side front fender, and completing the flare installation. Restoration Design has some new pieces that I plan to purchase including a new gravel pan (bottom cover plate for steering rack). I hope to post some pictures of progress soon.
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John   2.7 CIS   Aug 13 2019, 09:09 AM
GregAmy   Contact Chris Foley, Tangerine Racing. He was invo...   Aug 13 2019, 09:16 AM
Porschef   I still kick myself daily for not buying that car...   Aug 13 2019, 09:29 AM
John   Contact Chris Foley, Tangerine Racing. He was inv...   Aug 13 2019, 10:23 AM
Tdskip   Subscribing. I have been told it is possible, mayb...   Aug 13 2019, 09:19 AM
mb911   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebolt...   Aug 13 2019, 10:14 AM
John   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebol...   Aug 13 2019, 10:28 AM
Dr Evil   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebo...   Aug 13 2019, 11:01 AM
John   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. You ...   Aug 13 2019, 11:31 AM
Dr Evil   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. You...   Aug 13 2019, 11:41 AM
mepstein   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. Yo...   Aug 13 2019, 02:39 PM
sixnotfour   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='2738008' date='Aug 13...   Aug 13 2019, 02:59 PM
Dr Evil   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='2738008' date='Aug 1...   Aug 14 2019, 06:13 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebol...   Aug 13 2019, 11:48 AM
mb911   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebo...   Aug 13 2019, 11:51 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   [quote name='Jetsetsurfshop' post='2738012' date=...   Aug 13 2019, 12:10 PM
morgan_harwell   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did n...   Aug 13 2019, 10:22 AM
John   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did ...   Aug 28 2019, 11:48 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='morgan_harwell' post='2737988' date=...   Dec 9 2020, 04:01 PM
John   I would suggest you look at this thread: http:/...   Dec 12 2020, 12:05 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2873552' date='De...   Dec 12 2020, 06:57 AM
mb911   If you want to make your engine sheet metal let me...   Aug 13 2019, 11:49 AM
sixnotfour   one way to do it... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/i...   Aug 13 2019, 01:00 PM
914_teener   Slits (RIP) had a 2.7 with CIS IIRC. I don't...   Aug 13 2019, 01:07 PM
sixnotfour   Jeff Tucker wrote;   Aug 13 2019, 01:22 PM
sixnotfour   last   Aug 13 2019, 01:23 PM
sixnotfour   @Dr Evil http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Aug 13 2019, 01:52 PM
billh1963   Send member adidas a PM. He is working on my ‘72...   Aug 14 2019, 01:13 PM
morgan_harwell   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did...   Aug 28 2019, 02:59 PM
johnlush   The car referenced in posts 2 and 7 is mine. I sta...   Aug 28 2019, 05:53 PM
live free & drive   " Also note the naro mount drops the height o...   Aug 31 2019, 10:34 AM
mb911   " Also note the naro mount drops the height ...   Aug 31 2019, 10:49 AM
John   Well, I repaired the passenger side outer longitud...   Sep 2 2019, 08:33 PM
mepstein   Ben/914-6Werkshop.com has the GT hard lines and st...   Sep 2 2019, 08:51 PM
John   A couple of pictures of what I'm dealing with....   Sep 10 2019, 02:50 PM
John   Were all 914 Bodies painted white before color was...   Sep 23 2019, 08:35 AM
mepstein   No   Sep 23 2019, 08:46 AM
mb911   Maybe just white primer?   Sep 23 2019, 09:22 AM
John   I don't believe it to be primer as it seems to...   Sep 24 2019, 08:43 AM
mepstein   So many things done to these cars over 50 years.   Sep 24 2019, 09:34 AM
John   So many things done to these cars over 50 years. ...   Sep 27 2019, 11:34 AM
stevesc_us   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old scho...   Sep 28 2019, 08:21 AM
JmuRiz   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old sch...   Oct 1 2019, 12:56 PM
914Toy   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old sch...   Oct 2 2019, 12:43 PM
John   That is certainly one way to go. I already have w...   Oct 1 2019, 03:05 PM
Justinp71   My uncle and I did a 2.7 install 15 years ago. We ...   Oct 1 2019, 05:48 PM
Dr Evil   My uncle and I did a 2.7 install 15 years ago. We...   Oct 2 2019, 10:07 AM
John   Started doing the flares thing on this car. Befor...   Sep 25 2020, 06:57 AM
Tdskip   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the f...   Sep 25 2020, 07:20 AM
John   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the ...   Sep 25 2020, 08:52 AM
Tdskip   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the...   Sep 25 2020, 08:57 AM
John   Are you happy with the Naro engine mount? I am a...   Sep 25 2020, 09:07 AM
Root_Werks   CIS is a better choice than most give it credit. ...   Sep 25 2020, 09:07 AM
Root_Werks   Here's a shot of the engine:   Sep 25 2020, 09:11 AM
Tdskip   Thank you @John Enjoy your updates, thanks for...   Sep 25 2020, 09:14 AM
naro914   Hey guys - someone pointed me to this thread as th...   Sep 28 2020, 01:38 PM
Steve   Hey guys - someone pointed me to this thread as t...   Sep 28 2020, 09:51 PM
Maltese Falcon   Enough real estate under that lid to stuff a 2.7L ...   Sep 28 2020, 05:19 PM
John   Anyone know or remember a member here REZRON? Thi...   Nov 5 2020, 10:34 PM
John   So, nobody knows Rezron. Hmm. Anyway back to the...   Dec 5 2020, 09:30 PM
Tdskip   Press on, it’s going to be great.   Dec 6 2020, 09:44 AM
watsonrx13   Well done John. Do you have any in progress photos...   Dec 8 2020, 07:50 AM
Root_Werks   Well done John. Do you have any in progress photo...   Dec 8 2020, 10:05 AM
John   Well done John. Do you have any in progress phot...   Dec 8 2020, 10:14 PM
mb911   [quote name='Root_Werks' post='2873157' date='Dec...   Dec 9 2020, 07:38 AM
watsonrx13   Thanks everyone.   Dec 9 2020, 06:57 AM
John   More progress being made and I have moved along to...   Dec 18 2020, 01:38 PM
John   From various threads, I see a range of sizes for h...   Dec 18 2020, 07:12 PM
mb911   From various threads, I see a range of sizes for ...   Dec 18 2020, 08:45 PM
mepstein   Does the fitting for the return line in the lower ...   Dec 18 2020, 08:21 PM
John   Does the fitting for the return line in the lower...   Dec 19 2020, 12:55 PM
mepstein   Does the fitting for the return line in the lowe...   Dec 19 2020, 01:29 PM
John   Started cutting the holes and they turned out well...   Dec 23 2020, 11:28 AM
mepstein   Eric at PMB has the GT style pressure relief line ...   Dec 23 2020, 12:03 PM
mb911   Eric at PMB has the GT style pressure relief line...   Dec 23 2020, 03:42 PM
John   The only reasoning I can come up with for the pres...   Dec 24 2020, 03:43 PM
mepstein   I recently sent Ben an oil filter console just lik...   Dec 24 2020, 04:06 PM
John   I recently sent Ben an oil filter console just li...   Dec 26 2020, 09:28 PM


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