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> 2.7 CIS, Another six conversion
John
post Aug 13 2019, 09:09 AM
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I tried searching, but didn't get much.

What is involved with fitting a 2.7 with CIS in a 914? I can figure out the plumbing and the electrical, but I believe that I had read long ago that it was a PITA to fit CIS without cutting anything or perhaps a mixture of different parts could be used or parts of the intake could be relocated in order to get it all to fit. I'd prefer to avoid cutting this 914 engine compartment since I'm trying to make this one appear mostly factory. Any advice or better yet pictures would be appreciated.

I'd rather not go with carbs, since I believe that I'd need to swap cams and pistons in order to do it right.

This one is only going to be a fun street car (I already have a dedicated track car)

(All my conversion experience has been with 3.2s, but I have this body, and I have this engine...)


Thanks in advance!
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post Dec 23 2020, 11:28 AM
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Started cutting the holes and they turned out well so far, have a couple left once I come to grips with how I want to do the oil return line to the tank.

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The rubber sleeve for the filter console fits the hole I cut nicely. Do the hard rubber/plastic insulation washers meet through the hole? In other words, do the mounting holes need to be large enough that the stepped mounting washers go through the holes?

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While I like the DW Design filler neck, I wish the screw-on cap looked more like the 914-6 oil fill cap. I may find a donor stock looking cap to modify. I found that the oil filler neck that I thought I had is actually from a 911 and doesn't properly fit the oil tank opening.

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As I'm doing this, I'm wondering about how I will plumb this car. In the past, I've had front mount oil coolers and tanks. I've run the return line from the engine case up front to a thermostat then cooler then back to thermostat, then oil filter, then to tank. I've never plumbed in a pressure relief valve in the external oil cooler circuit. I've noticed that in all the 914-6 GT cars, a pressure relief valve in addition to a thermostat is used. I'm not 100% convinced that I really need the pressure relief valve, but why would they have put them in the GT cars? In air cooled 911 street cars, they simply put a thermostat in the lines leading to/from the front mounted coolers.

Any thoughts on the pressure relief valves plumbed into the GT cars? Anyone actually use a pressure relief valve in the lines to the external oil cooler?

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I have decided to relocate the engine lid release latch to the passenger side.

I'll keep plugging away at this.








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John   2.7 CIS   Aug 13 2019, 09:09 AM
GregAmy   Contact Chris Foley, Tangerine Racing. He was invo...   Aug 13 2019, 09:16 AM
Porschef   I still kick myself daily for not buying that car...   Aug 13 2019, 09:29 AM
John   Contact Chris Foley, Tangerine Racing. He was inv...   Aug 13 2019, 10:23 AM
Tdskip   Subscribing. I have been told it is possible, mayb...   Aug 13 2019, 09:19 AM
mb911   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebolt...   Aug 13 2019, 10:14 AM
John   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebol...   Aug 13 2019, 10:28 AM
Dr Evil   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebo...   Aug 13 2019, 11:01 AM
John   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. You ...   Aug 13 2019, 11:31 AM
Dr Evil   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. You...   Aug 13 2019, 11:41 AM
mepstein   Tried searching, but came up with nothing. Yo...   Aug 13 2019, 02:39 PM
sixnotfour   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='2738008' date='Aug 13...   Aug 13 2019, 02:59 PM
Dr Evil   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='2738008' date='Aug 1...   Aug 14 2019, 06:13 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebol...   Aug 13 2019, 11:48 AM
mb911   You actually rotate the cis 180 degrees and rebo...   Aug 13 2019, 11:51 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   [quote name='Jetsetsurfshop' post='2738012' date=...   Aug 13 2019, 12:10 PM
morgan_harwell   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did n...   Aug 13 2019, 10:22 AM
John   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did ...   Aug 28 2019, 11:48 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='morgan_harwell' post='2737988' date=...   Dec 9 2020, 04:01 PM
John   I would suggest you look at this thread: http:/...   Dec 12 2020, 12:05 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2873552' date='De...   Dec 12 2020, 06:57 AM
mb911   If you want to make your engine sheet metal let me...   Aug 13 2019, 11:49 AM
sixnotfour   one way to do it... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/i...   Aug 13 2019, 01:00 PM
914_teener   Slits (RIP) had a 2.7 with CIS IIRC. I don't...   Aug 13 2019, 01:07 PM
sixnotfour   Jeff Tucker wrote;   Aug 13 2019, 01:22 PM
sixnotfour   last   Aug 13 2019, 01:23 PM
sixnotfour   @Dr Evil http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Aug 13 2019, 01:52 PM
billh1963   Send member adidas a PM. He is working on my ‘72...   Aug 14 2019, 01:13 PM
morgan_harwell   I did this in 1987 with a 2.4L CIS engine. I did...   Aug 28 2019, 02:59 PM
johnlush   The car referenced in posts 2 and 7 is mine. I sta...   Aug 28 2019, 05:53 PM
live free & drive   " Also note the naro mount drops the height o...   Aug 31 2019, 10:34 AM
mb911   " Also note the naro mount drops the height ...   Aug 31 2019, 10:49 AM
John   Well, I repaired the passenger side outer longitud...   Sep 2 2019, 08:33 PM
mepstein   Ben/914-6Werkshop.com has the GT hard lines and st...   Sep 2 2019, 08:51 PM
John   A couple of pictures of what I'm dealing with....   Sep 10 2019, 02:50 PM
John   Were all 914 Bodies painted white before color was...   Sep 23 2019, 08:35 AM
mepstein   No   Sep 23 2019, 08:46 AM
mb911   Maybe just white primer?   Sep 23 2019, 09:22 AM
John   I don't believe it to be primer as it seems to...   Sep 24 2019, 08:43 AM
mepstein   So many things done to these cars over 50 years.   Sep 24 2019, 09:34 AM
John   So many things done to these cars over 50 years. ...   Sep 27 2019, 11:34 AM
stevesc_us   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old scho...   Sep 28 2019, 08:21 AM
JmuRiz   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old sch...   Oct 1 2019, 12:56 PM
914Toy   Forget all that CIS crap and make it look old sch...   Oct 2 2019, 12:43 PM
John   That is certainly one way to go. I already have w...   Oct 1 2019, 03:05 PM
Justinp71   My uncle and I did a 2.7 install 15 years ago. We ...   Oct 1 2019, 05:48 PM
Dr Evil   My uncle and I did a 2.7 install 15 years ago. We...   Oct 2 2019, 10:07 AM
John   Started doing the flares thing on this car. Befor...   Sep 25 2020, 06:57 AM
Tdskip   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the f...   Sep 25 2020, 07:20 AM
John   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the ...   Sep 25 2020, 08:52 AM
Tdskip   Thanks for the update. Where did you source the...   Sep 25 2020, 08:57 AM
John   Are you happy with the Naro engine mount? I am a...   Sep 25 2020, 09:07 AM
Root_Werks   CIS is a better choice than most give it credit. ...   Sep 25 2020, 09:07 AM
Root_Werks   Here's a shot of the engine:   Sep 25 2020, 09:11 AM
Tdskip   Thank you @John Enjoy your updates, thanks for...   Sep 25 2020, 09:14 AM
naro914   Hey guys - someone pointed me to this thread as th...   Sep 28 2020, 01:38 PM
Steve   Hey guys - someone pointed me to this thread as t...   Sep 28 2020, 09:51 PM
Maltese Falcon   Enough real estate under that lid to stuff a 2.7L ...   Sep 28 2020, 05:19 PM
John   Anyone know or remember a member here REZRON? Thi...   Nov 5 2020, 10:34 PM
John   So, nobody knows Rezron. Hmm. Anyway back to the...   Dec 5 2020, 09:30 PM
Tdskip   Press on, it’s going to be great.   Dec 6 2020, 09:44 AM
watsonrx13   Well done John. Do you have any in progress photos...   Dec 8 2020, 07:50 AM
Root_Werks   Well done John. Do you have any in progress photo...   Dec 8 2020, 10:05 AM
John   Well done John. Do you have any in progress phot...   Dec 8 2020, 10:14 PM
mb911   [quote name='Root_Werks' post='2873157' date='Dec...   Dec 9 2020, 07:38 AM
watsonrx13   Thanks everyone.   Dec 9 2020, 06:57 AM
John   More progress being made and I have moved along to...   Dec 18 2020, 01:38 PM
John   From various threads, I see a range of sizes for h...   Dec 18 2020, 07:12 PM
mb911   From various threads, I see a range of sizes for ...   Dec 18 2020, 08:45 PM
mepstein   Does the fitting for the return line in the lower ...   Dec 18 2020, 08:21 PM
John   Does the fitting for the return line in the lower...   Dec 19 2020, 12:55 PM
mepstein   Does the fitting for the return line in the lowe...   Dec 19 2020, 01:29 PM
John   Started cutting the holes and they turned out well...   Dec 23 2020, 11:28 AM
mepstein   Eric at PMB has the GT style pressure relief line ...   Dec 23 2020, 12:03 PM
mb911   Eric at PMB has the GT style pressure relief line...   Dec 23 2020, 03:42 PM
John   The only reasoning I can come up with for the pres...   Dec 24 2020, 03:43 PM
mepstein   I recently sent Ben an oil filter console just lik...   Dec 24 2020, 04:06 PM
John   I recently sent Ben an oil filter console just li...   Dec 26 2020, 09:28 PM


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