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orthobiz
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9/17/19. My resistance numbers are good, my ability to read said number is bad! Paul

9/16/19 I removed the MPS because I could not be assured I was touching the leads appropriately after removing the plug...and what I found...Post 52

Paul

9/15/19 Another update:

Tested the vacuum on the MPS, it's fine. Am hoping to test electrically according to PBAnders site:

"If the vacuum test is passed, check the coil resistances. The primary coil is measured between terminals 7 and 15 and should measure about 90 ohms. The secondary coil is measured between terminals 8 and 10 and should measure about 350 ohms"

Is there a diagram of the terminals? Do I remove the unit to test it? Damn I'm such a newbie!

Paul

9/14/19 update:

My 1974 2.0 with EFI was running fine. Put in LED taillights, left the ignition on to test the blinkers and then the car started running poorly. Thought I fried my Pertronix, put a new one in, seemed to run fine for a day and then started running poorly again. I took some video today but it really doesn't show what is happening as felt in the seat of my pants, i.e. it stumbles but doesn't crack heads back and forth. A loss of power, maybe a bit worse when warmed up, mild surging that is disconcerting and annoying to say the least.

I disconnected the TPS and it didn't run any better. I am wondering if the TPS is bad, could the engine run poorly even if it is disconnected. In other words, does that totally rule the TPS out as the problem?

It just has to be something electric, I think. Should I replace the TPS just to see? I can't imagine going back to incandescent lights will help, it's stumbling with or without the LED lights on.

I'd rather not go back to points/condenser...

Sorry I'm so needy but I am puzzled to say the least!

Paul

Older posts follow:

Update on the update: I fried my Pertronix...see below.

Update: it's more like a hesitating stumbling, happening with or without cruising, that is, it also happens under acceleration. Original post follows:

My 1974 2.0 started bucking all of a sudden. Researching on the site, I'm thinking it's the TPS. Looked in George's Tech Tips 700 book and he advised disconnecting the TPS harness to see if the bucking went away.

To cut to the chase, it bucks especially between 2000-3000 RPM whether the TPS is connected or not. Mainly under light load, while driving and maintaining speed.

It seems to do this more when the engine is warming up, rather than when stone cold.

I am wondering if I should just replace the TPS board. Does the persistence of this problem after disconnecting the TPS rule it out as a cause? I don't feel like tearing into this unnecessarily.

It has a new late style fuel pump that is mounted up front last year, eliminating vapor lock. I've read here that low pressure can be the culprit, but would doubt it in my case.

Perhaps the temp change relationship implies a bad CHT sensor?

Any ideas on things I can easily check much appreciated.

Paul
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orthobiz   Stumbling 1974 2.0...It's finally fixed. Post 63.   Aug 23 2019, 05:54 PM
mepstein   Check all grounds and the dizzy.   Aug 23 2019, 06:13 PM
orthobiz   Check all grounds and the dizzy. What on the di...   Aug 23 2019, 06:23 PM
mepstein   Check all grounds and the dizzy. What on the d...   Aug 23 2019, 07:03 PM
northern chris   You can also try disconnecting each injector one a...   Aug 23 2019, 06:54 PM
Rand   Not sure about that last comment. One injector? Un...   Aug 23 2019, 07:02 PM
northern chris   Not sure about that last comment. One injector? N...   Aug 23 2019, 07:07 PM
Rand   Not sure about that last comment. One injector? ...   Aug 23 2019, 07:09 PM
Rand   Is it stumbling some, or is it real bucking as in ...   Aug 23 2019, 07:11 PM
orthobiz   Is it stumbling some, or is it real bucking as in...   Aug 23 2019, 07:55 PM
mepstein   Mine was car shaking bucking.   Aug 23 2019, 08:07 PM
Rand   Mine was car shaking bucking. R&R... Please ...   Aug 23 2019, 08:21 PM
mepstein   Mine was car shaking bucking. R&R... Please...   Aug 23 2019, 08:34 PM
ironken62   [quote name='Rand' post='2741035' date='Aug 23 20...   Aug 25 2019, 06:41 PM
HansJan   I had similar issues when coasting around 3,000 rp...   Aug 25 2019, 08:27 PM
Rand   The 123 is one of the hugest upgrades that everyon...   Aug 25 2019, 09:25 PM
falcor75   Does the bucking go away under full throttle? Did ...   Aug 25 2019, 09:40 PM
rjames   Why? Unless you’ve verified the correct pres...   Aug 25 2019, 10:16 PM
orthobiz   The car had horrible vapor lock and it was elimina...   Aug 26 2019, 02:36 PM
porschetub   Totally check your ignition system before saying y...   Aug 26 2019, 01:19 AM
orthobiz   Thanks for all the replies. The stumbling occurs u...   Aug 26 2019, 02:28 PM
rhodyguy   Is your tps calibrated with an ohm meter?   Aug 26 2019, 02:34 PM
orthobiz   I did not check it. However, with the ignition on,...   Aug 26 2019, 02:39 PM
rjames   I did not check it. However, with the ignition on...   Aug 26 2019, 05:36 PM
orthobiz   Update: spoke with my mechanic, the car has Pertro...   Aug 26 2019, 06:26 PM
orthobiz   In reading about the Pertronix, which is what I ha...   Aug 26 2019, 07:06 PM
Sm914650   Im also having a bucking issue with a 73 1.7. See...   Aug 26 2019, 07:12 PM
rjames   Im also having a bucking issue with a 73 1.7. Se...   Aug 26 2019, 07:52 PM
orthobiz   rjames had me thinking...the last thing I did was ...   Sep 7 2019, 12:59 PM
JeffBowlsby   So one has to wonder if the Pertronix is truly an ...   Sep 7 2019, 03:03 PM
orthobiz   So one has to wonder if the Pertronix is truly an...   Sep 7 2019, 05:36 PM
FlacaProductions   LEDs are most certainly an upgrade. I don't t...   Sep 7 2019, 03:44 PM
ndfrigi   here is what I posted also on other thread: here ...   Sep 7 2019, 03:55 PM
Tbrown4x4   I hope this is contributing to the thread and not ...   Sep 7 2019, 04:41 PM
rhodyguy   Check the lights with the engine running. :)   Sep 7 2019, 06:05 PM
orthobiz   Thanks for being patient with me everybody. I repl...   Sep 8 2019, 12:59 PM
porschetub   Did you replace with Ignitor 1 ?,I've never bu...   Sep 8 2019, 02:26 PM
orthobiz   Ignitor 2 BUT I am using a Bosch Blue Coil. I...   Sep 8 2019, 02:31 PM
porschetub   Ignitor 2 BUT I am using a Bosch Blue Coil. I...   Sep 9 2019, 01:40 PM
orthobiz   Thanks but I think I'm just not having any luc...   Sep 11 2019, 01:53 PM
orthobiz   So I did more checking according to the Ignitor II...   Sep 13 2019, 06:15 PM
rjames   So I did more checking according to the Ignitor I...   Sep 13 2019, 11:17 PM
rjames   So I did more checking according to the Ignitor I...   Sep 13 2019, 11:18 PM
orthobiz   Updated post #1. Paul   Sep 14 2019, 12:25 PM
mepstein   Time for the six conversion :evilgrin:   Sep 14 2019, 01:13 PM
orthobiz   Looking to test MPS according to my post #1. Set t...   Sep 15 2019, 07:05 PM
JeffBowlsby   Vacuum pump test at 15 in. Hg. Ohm test inner and...   Sep 15 2019, 07:54 PM
rjames   Vacuum pump test at 15 in. Hg. Ohm test inner an...   Sep 15 2019, 09:41 PM
orthobiz   No previous adjustments...will test tomorrow, than...   Sep 15 2019, 08:14 PM
914werke   if it still has the epoxy filled over it nose ..it...   Sep 15 2019, 11:49 PM
JeffBowlsby   To be sure, it also needs the four aluminum rivets...   Sep 16 2019, 05:08 PM
orthobiz   I took the MPS out. Could they make ANYTHING on th...   Sep 16 2019, 08:15 PM
orthobiz   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live....   Sep 16 2019, 08:17 PM
orthobiz   Also, it has passed the 15 inch Hg test without an...   Sep 16 2019, 08:47 PM
JeffBowlsby   For 0.362 ohms...sure your DVM was not set to the ...   Sep 16 2019, 09:05 PM
orthobiz   Actually it is set to KOhm on the meter, but the o...   Sep 17 2019, 03:23 AM
rjames   You will need an 02 sensor to tune it properly, so...   Sep 17 2019, 12:46 AM
orthobiz   It's embarrassing... My Micronta Radio Shack ...   Sep 17 2019, 07:11 AM
ChrisFoley   Two suggestions: Pull the injectors and spray carb...   Sep 17 2019, 08:37 AM
orthobiz   Thanks Chris. Am considering all options! Pau...   Sep 17 2019, 11:38 AM
Rod   I had a very similar bucking to you under load and...   Sep 17 2019, 04:19 PM
orthobiz   Good idea to check the grounds. I have a set of kn...   Sep 17 2019, 04:38 PM
orthobiz   So I towed the car to Brad 914Ltd. Turns out the t...   Jun 19 2020, 02:51 PM
Bleyseng   :headbang:   Jun 20 2020, 09:55 AM


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