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Really cool valve adjustment system |
mepstein |
Oct 8 2019, 10:24 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,237 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Now snapgap.us is selling valve adjustment kits for VW/type 4 engines. Check out their products. Really cool stuff. I’m not affiliated in any way.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 8 2019, 10:41 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) That's awesome. Those would make things easier.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 8 2019, 10:55 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
$175 for the set? Seems like a decent deal. On the 914-6 with headers the valves are all easy enough to get to, but on a 911 or 914-6 with heat exchangers this would be amazing.
911/914-6 valve adjustment kit |
bdstone914 |
Oct 8 2019, 02:03 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
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IronHillRestorations |
Oct 8 2019, 06:42 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I don't know if I want any more fasteners in the valve train, than the factory used. Do you really want extra weight in the valve train?
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mepstein |
Oct 8 2019, 07:33 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,237 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There's a long thread on Pelican and one of the concerns is weight. I'm sure the system isn't perfect in every respect but after doing a lot of reading on the pros and cons, it seems like a real benefit to the average DIY guy who has done it rarely or never and wants to get a good result.
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914forme |
Oct 8 2019, 08:23 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Neat idea, and sound in design. If it was built out of Titanium you would not have to worry about valve train weight differences.
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djway |
Oct 8 2019, 11:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 16-October 15 From: Riverside Member No.: 19,266 Region Association: Southern California |
Now snapgap.us is selling valve adjustment kits for VW/type 4 engines. Check out their products. Really cool stuff. I’m not affiliated in any way. But they only have them for 7mm screws and only 1.7L engines had them originally. Bruce Did you mean 8mm? That is the size listed on the site |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 9 2019, 07:37 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,410 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Exactly what does this system supposed to do? A valve adjustment screw is a simple thing. Why make it more complicated????
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SNAPGAP |
Oct 9 2019, 09:09 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-October 19 From: Vermont Member No.: 23,548 Region Association: None |
Thought I would jump in here. I am the developer of the SNAPGAP system. To answer a few of the questions posed:
1. We only have kits that fit on 8 mm adjustment screws. We may expand later to 10 mm. 2. SNAPGAP is a new and patented system for adjusting valves in aircooled engines. It provides quick and highly accurate adjustments without the guess work of a feeler gauge or the inaccuracies introduced when the OEM jam nut is tightened down. 3. We have extensively evaluated titanium parts and have decided that on engines that run short of 10,000 RPM, the small additional weight on the valve train makes no difference -- especially with the geometry of the Porsche rocker arms. I know that some folks will stick with other methods -- including the feeler gauge. For those who don't like the other methods or want to try something new, we have several videos on our site that explain how and why SNAPGAP works, plus some demonstration videos of adjustments in the engine and -- one showing a one-handed adjustment in 1 minute and 10 sec. accurate to exactly 0.10 mm.My Webpage |
Ansbacher |
Oct 9 2019, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 4-July 14 From: Tampa Bay, Florida Member No.: 17,589 |
What's next, an automatic shoe lace tier ??
Ansbacher |
SNAPGAP |
Oct 9 2019, 11:02 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-October 19 From: Vermont Member No.: 23,548 Region Association: None |
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mepstein |
Oct 9 2019, 11:03 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,237 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thought I would jump in here. I am the developer of the SNAPGAP system. To answer a few of the questions posed: 1. We only have kits that fit on 8 mm adjustment screws. We may expand later to 10 mm. 2. SNAPGAP is a new and patented system for adjusting valves in aircooled engines. It provides quick and highly accurate adjustments without the guess work of a feeler gauge or the inaccuracies introduced when the OEM jam nut is tightened down. 3. We have extensively evaluated titanium parts and have decided that on engines that run short of 10,000 RPM, the small additional weight on the valve train makes no difference -- especially with the geometry of the Porsche rocker arms. I know that some folks will stick with other methods -- including the feeler gauge. For those who don't like the other methods or want to try something new, we have several videos on our site that explain how and why SNAPGAP works, plus some demonstration videos of adjustments in the engine and -- one showing a one-handed adjustment in 1 minute and 10 sec. accurate to exactly 0.10 mm.My Webpage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Ansbacher |
Oct 9 2019, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 4-July 14 From: Tampa Bay, Florida Member No.: 17,589 |
What's next, an automatic shoe lace tier ?? Ansbacher I'm on it!!!! SNAPGAP ! Tell me when you perfect one. My back is killing me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
sixnotfour |
Oct 9 2019, 02:25 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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SNAPGAP |
Oct 9 2019, 02:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-October 19 From: Vermont Member No.: 23,548 Region Association: None |
What's next, an automatic shoe lace tier ?? Ansbacher I'm on it!!!! SNAPGAP Is your T-handle torque device available separate ??...its simple @10nm Sure, but you can get those from many on line bike shops in a variety of torques. Mine are supplied by PrestaCycle. PrestaCycle also offers them with a single wrench that has multiple settings. If you still want just a 10Nm, message me and I will send you one for a reasonable price. Best, Brad at SNAPGAP |
sixnotfour |
Oct 9 2019, 02:49 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Will do Ive seen all those ,,I'm simple... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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mepstein |
Oct 9 2019, 02:52 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,237 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yea, the bike industry started using torque wrenches a while ago after they went to smaller hardware, TI bolts and carbon fiber parts. The old stuff held up to a “good twist to make tight”. The new stuff stripped and crushed until people realized it was made to just be strong enough but not anything more.
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djway |
Oct 9 2019, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 16-October 15 From: Riverside Member No.: 19,266 Region Association: Southern California |
What is the weight difference between the adjuster assembly versus the steel nut?
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914forme |
Oct 9 2019, 06:26 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I would think that a logical step would be to offer it in Ti, just for the people who think they need it. You can offer both systems and be fine for us normal people who do not care. But for those who do, then Ti would be a logical choice.
After all lots of people with deeper pockets than I change over to Ti parts. Maybe when I retire I might start machining my own Ti parts. Most likely smelted from all the Apple cards my friends seem to be collecting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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