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Cary going in deep again : MiddleMotors |
cary |
Nov 24 2019, 08:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Last spring I got a call from a gentlemen that I will call DP. Please come by and look at my car.
My son and I rebuilt the engine in 2012 and never started it. So Jack and I made a house call. Laying on the floor I saw the hole in the long. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Basically I told him car shouldn't be driven unless the rust is repaired. Let him know where he fell in the line up of projects. Picked up the car around the first of September. Original scope of work : 1. Get engine up and running. 2. Get car shifting correctly. 3. Complete PMB brake restoration. 4. End of day, make car reliable After getting the car on the lift I gave him my best guess on the hours needed to complete the job. Drive train on the table |
tygaboy |
Nov 24 2019, 08:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,244 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Cary, Wow - you weren't kidding about that hole! Be sure DP joins the World and knows what great hands his car is in! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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cary |
Nov 24 2019, 08:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
He is, but for the life of me I can't remember it.
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cary |
Nov 24 2019, 08:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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cary |
Nov 25 2019, 12:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Starting point..
Here's the engine bay after the lie detector work and jack point removed. |
Andyrew |
Nov 25 2019, 06:56 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Eeeeek that's a nasty one!
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cary |
Nov 25 2019, 09:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Time to start cutting my way in. But always thinking, how am I going to weld and encapsulate my way out.
I was hoping the damage was isolated to the jack point area. Not to be. Off comes a portion of the floor. No window leakage damage. Just hell hole damage eating its way up. Both inner and outer firewalls will need some patching. |
mepstein |
Nov 25 2019, 10:04 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If it was for sale, I'm sure the ad would have read - Light surface rust on one spot, nothing structural.
Thanks for documenting. |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 07:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks, Mark & Chris.
Its all about bringing cars back to life and putting them on the road again. |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 07:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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cary |
Nov 25 2019, 09:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here's a few shots of some other spots that will need some attention.
Hell hole was patched right over the battery acid rusty metal. 30 years ago. This is a good shot of the usual battery acid rust damage. Shows the 2 layers under the hell hole patch. Here's shot of the damage to the outside of the upper long / wheelhouse piece. |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 09:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I figured it was about time I check the left rocker to before I submit my sheet metal order.
Packed with a mud/sand combo, but no rust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 10:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Now it was time to open up the long to see if I could do a partial repair/patch.
Not to be ................. |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 10:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Now its time to get serious. Cutting open the long.
Then it was time to cut the cancer out of the long itself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Using the 2 post lift I need to get the front arm out of the way. Find my level. With screw jack, raise the car enough to move the arm. Took a .125" lift to move the arm. Then dropped it back to zero. |
cary |
Nov 25 2019, 10:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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cary |
Nov 25 2019, 10:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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cary |
Nov 25 2019, 10:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Long trimmed out.
Here's where we sit till the sheet metal arrives. Backbone won't be cut until I have 3 more screw jacks in my way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
jesse7flying |
Nov 26 2019, 09:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 9-August 16 From: Burleson,TX Member No.: 20,281 Region Association: None |
Love your threads Cary! Do you have a better shot of how you handle the upper attachment point for the blue reinforcement bars? Thx
Jesse |
Charles Freeborn |
Nov 26 2019, 10:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 21-May 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,377 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yowzer. Big project.
Maybe I can see it some time. BTW, I've got some engine questions for you. Considering building a spare 4 for the race car. |
cary |
Nov 26 2019, 04:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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