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> OK guys - how to build a “civilized” 3.2 914/6
Tdskip
post Dec 2 2019, 01:21 PM
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Assuming the goal is a daily driver civilized build that you’d get out of after 500 without feeling beat up and frazzled - how do you do that?

The 3.2 I have had a complete Motrinic and I am assuming that keeping that would be step one in that build , yes?

Is the rest down to muffler choice and sound deadening etc.?
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post Dec 2 2019, 08:46 PM
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Great discussion gentlemen, appreciate all the thoughts and responses.

I think I need to starting focusing more on NVH, as suggested.

I did several 500 mile days in that ‘74 2.0L car I drove from OR to SoCal and it was fine.

@mb911 - PM sent.

@Superhawk996 - yeah yeah yeah, I know, I know. I have naked Goldwing that eats that sort of mileage for breakfast but the /6 needs to be something my significant other can comfortably drive.

@dr914 @autoatlanta.com - thanks as always.

Appreciate ALL the thoughts and experiences and thoughts.
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post Dec 3 2019, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Dec 2 2019, 09:46 PM) *

Great discussion gentlemen, appreciate all the thoughts and responses.

I think I need to starting focusing more on NVH, as suggested.


@Superhawk996 - yeah yeah yeah, I know, I know. I have naked Goldwing that eats that sort of mileage for breakfast but the /6 needs to be something my significant other can comfortably drive.


Appreciate ALL the thoughts and experiences and thoughts.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) My 914 came about due to wife's lack of interest in riding on the back of motorcycles any more. She missed the weekend drives in the Miata and suggested I buy a 914 again.

The other key ingredient for comfortable 500 mile days may be A/C & heat depending on your environment.

You are wise to focus on NVH. Often ignored. Lots of studies show NVH is critical to driver comfort & customer satisfaction. In some cases like low freqency drone or high frequency whistle, the driver may not even be consciously aware, but when the stimulus is removed, they then feel much better about the car.

NVH ideas:
Cloth seat coverings - the will absorb noise and the allow more comfort / breathability than vinyl or leather. Even if you kept bolsters vinyl but added cloth center cushions it will help significantly.

Back & door panel pad covering - cloth or Alcantera (faux suede) like materials - can be mixed with leather / vinyl if original appearance isn't importnat to you. You'd be surprised how much louder leather interiors are vs. cloth. Most modern cars are a strategic mix of materials.

Put something soft / foamy / fuzzy on the underside of the targa top. That is basically a big resonator and a sound reflector. Actually Dyna mat on the underside and then covered with something that looks nice would be useful to damp NVH.

Use shoddy under the carpet in addition to sound treatment like constrained layer damping material (Dynamat) this is usually more effective than the tar mats.

If you can tolerate a center console or storage bin, it will help break up some potential cabin resonances that come with an "open box" cabin.

Use Dynamat on other panels like door outer & the front dash that otherwise have no treatment.

Seal all pass through holes with proper grommets & seals. Put a patch of Dynamat over any random screw holes. Air leakage = Noise transfer path

Door seals - make sure your door seals are actually sealing to the body.

You get the idea.

Here's a starter for you:

http://lightweightingworld.com/noise-vibra...lightweighting/
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Tdskip   OK guys - how to build a “civilized” 3.2 914/6   Dec 2 2019, 01:21 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   stock motronic 901 transmission kennedy engineerin...   Dec 2 2019, 02:03 PM
thelogo   Assuming the goal is a daily driver civilized bui...   Dec 2 2019, 02:24 PM
mb911   What George no plug for my 1.625 heat exchangers a...   Dec 2 2019, 02:28 PM
Rob-O   I think George has good points. When I think civi...   Dec 2 2019, 02:31 PM
mepstein   Don't get paralysis by analysis. Build somethi...   Dec 2 2019, 02:34 PM
mb911   Oh also note to stick with soft suspension and 15 ...   Dec 2 2019, 02:44 PM
Superhawk996   Assuming the goal is a daily driver civilized bui...   Dec 2 2019, 03:26 PM
Bleyseng   Hmm, I disagree with the soft soft suspension as I...   Dec 2 2019, 03:44 PM
ConeDodger   Driveline wise, the stock 3.2 with all of its Motr...   Dec 2 2019, 03:49 PM
horizontally-opposed   Civilized 914 3.2? I like your thinking—it's...   Dec 2 2019, 03:53 PM
Steve   Civilized 914 3.2? I like your thinking—it...   Dec 3 2019, 08:10 AM
cali914   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='276...   Dec 4 2019, 08:42 AM
burton73   I can tell you what I think of the engine set up. ...   Dec 2 2019, 04:22 PM
Coondog   Plenty of us So Cal guys running around with 3.2s ...   Dec 2 2019, 04:31 PM
ConeDodger   Plenty of us So Cal guys running around with 3.2s...   Dec 2 2019, 06:34 PM
mb911   Plenty of us So Cal guys running around with 3.2...   Dec 2 2019, 07:50 PM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='2767012' date='Dec...   Dec 2 2019, 07:53 PM
mb911   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='2767012' date='De...   Dec 2 2019, 08:15 PM
Cairo94507   Huh...that is pretty much my build except I went w...   Dec 2 2019, 06:22 PM
siverson   > Assuming the goal is a daily driver civilized...   Dec 2 2019, 06:24 PM
sixnotfour   Carbs/K&Ns/ Sport Muffler/PPEs.... Its a tin c...   Dec 2 2019, 06:48 PM
Krieger   Maybe a jar of Grey Poupon? :beer2:   Dec 2 2019, 06:57 PM
914forme   Don't forget Ben's hard lines for the fron...   Dec 2 2019, 07:49 PM
Tdskip   Great discussion gentlemen, appreciate all the tho...   Dec 2 2019, 08:46 PM
Superhawk996   Great discussion gentlemen, appreciate all the th...   Dec 3 2019, 06:06 AM
Tdskip   Here's a starter for you: http://lightweig...   Dec 4 2019, 09:32 AM
mb911   @tdskip pm'd back ..   Dec 2 2019, 09:01 PM
914forme   I would also swap out the the seats for some Leman...   Dec 2 2019, 09:36 PM
Tdskip   Thanks @914forme This car has already been brac...   Dec 2 2019, 09:45 PM
sixnotfour   tdskip..your all over the map was a small bore now...   Dec 2 2019, 09:47 PM
Tdskip   tdskip..your all over the map was a small bore no...   Dec 2 2019, 10:02 PM
sixnotfour   [quote name='sixnotfour' post='2767069' date='Dec...   Dec 2 2019, 10:04 PM
Tdskip   I have 12 BFD That is a lot! No wonder you...   Dec 2 2019, 10:05 PM
sixnotfour   I have 12 BFD That is a lot! No wonder yo...   Dec 2 2019, 10:07 PM
cali914   Kents set up is as close as you are going to get w...   Dec 3 2019, 01:25 AM
a9146luvr   "civilized?", not possible >:D hopefu...   Dec 3 2019, 02:34 AM
Racer   My long 914 drives (1.7, 2.0, 2056, 2.0/6) have al...   Dec 3 2019, 08:41 AM
Tdskip   Thanks for all the constructive input. So, with a...   Dec 3 2019, 08:45 AM
Steve   The triad is nice, but it does have an evil drone ...   Dec 3 2019, 09:58 AM
Tdskip   The triad is nice, but it does have an evil drone...   Dec 3 2019, 10:18 AM


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