 OT Converting Automatic to Manual In 944, How Difficult Is It? |
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| motorvated |
 Dec 3 2019, 08:57 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 13-February 13 From: Colorado Member No.: 15,519 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
While looking for either a 914 or other inexpensive Porsche as a first project to work on with my 16 year old grandson I ran across a 944 with a bad automatic tranny. How tough is it to convert it over to a manual, and how pricey do you think it will be.
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| theer |
Dec 3 2019, 09:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States 
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There are a bunch of threads that just came up on the 944 Board over at Pelican on this very topic.
I suspect the hardest part is adding the third pedal & hydraulics for the clutch, etc. Gas pedal and/or ECU might be different (for kickdown of automatic??) |
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| thelogo |
Dec 3 2019, 09:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(motorvated @ Dec 3 2019, 06:57 AM)  While looking for either a 914 or other inexpensive Porsche as a first project to work on with my 16 year old grandson I ran across a 944 with a bad automatic tranny. How tough is it to convert it over to a manual, and how pricey do you think it will be. Do you have experience working on a 944 ? From what i understand it can be difficult and expensive So not really much sense in putting in a ton of time and money into a project that will never be worth much But if your son is 16 and its a father son project Get a aircooled vw beetle( disposable car ) . tons of learning how to work on it ... For very little expense. And that experience transfer over to the 914 when you find one . |
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| porschetub |
Dec 3 2019, 12:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Due to the value of these cars I wouldn't bother,it would be a hell of a lot of work.
Buy a manual series 2 ,cheap enough if it needs a little work,make sure it has history of cambelt/waterpump ,clutch and cooling system otherwise you can spend a lot on these repairs. I've owned an auto and a manual,I was surprised how well the auto drove with the 2.7. but I really think the engine works best with the 5 speed. |
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| TargaToy |
Dec 6 2019, 09:22 PM
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-NONSOLIS RADIOS SEDIOUIS FULMINA MITTO- Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 26-March 10 From: DelMarVa Peninsula Member No.: 11,509 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 3 2019, 10:57 AM) QUOTE(motorvated @ Dec 3 2019, 06:57 AM) While looking for either a 914 or other inexpensive Porsche as a first project to work on with my 16 year old grandson I ran across a 944 with a bad automatic tranny. How tough is it to convert it over to a manual, and how pricey do you think it will be. Do you have experience working on a 944 ? From what i understand it can be difficult and expensive So not really much sense in putting in a ton of time and money into a project that will never be worth much But if your son is 16 and its a father son project Get a aircooled vw beetle( disposable car ) . tons of learning how to work on it ... For very little expense. And that experience transfer over to the 914 when you find one . I’ve noticed that aircooled beetles are rare as hen’s teeth over here on the east coast and are not at all “disposable” like they once were. In fact, I was shocked at the prices they are commanding now. The water cooled beetles are more your throw-aways now. |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 7 2019, 10:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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Have to agree with what was said above from a time/effort/cost. Cheaper to find one that you can use as-is even if you have to ship it. Any Porsche from that era will give you opportunities for father and son wrenching time anyway.
That said – I’m guilty of doing irrational things on cars for the enjoyment or learning so not everything has to pencil out |
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 8 2019, 12:21 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,574 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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This is a super simple project. First, buy a 944 that has a 5 speed. Then, take whatever parts you need to make the 5 speed car nicer and haul the remains to the junk yard...
nice father son project! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| sixnotfour |
Dec 8 2019, 02:41 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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Or what is wrong with the auto... Is it the trans or the ring pinion, spider gears, stub axle..??? might be simpler than it appears..
gonna have to do a bunch of other maintenance...timing belt, water pump, brakes, etc. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 8 2019, 02:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,612 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 3 2019, 07:57 AM) Get a aircooled vw beetle( disposable car ) Those days are long gone ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| mb911 |
Dec 8 2019, 04:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,819 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Personally I love the 924 and 944s.. Great cars.. I pine for a 924 turbo and 944 turbo some day.. My son has an 88 944.. Drives very nicely
Fix the automatic.. They are pretty tough drivelines.. |
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| phillstek |
Dec 8 2019, 06:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Byron Bay, Australia Member No.: 11,741 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 9 2019, 08:02 AM) Personally I love the 924 and 944s.. Great cars.. I pine for a 924 turbo and 944 turbo some day.. My son has an 88 944.. Drives very nicely Fix the automatic.. They are pretty tough drivelines.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ‘89 952 (944 Turbo rhd) was the best car I’ve ever owned. Regretted selling that car but the upside was funds from sale went into 914 resto-mod. |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 8 2019, 06:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(phillstek @ Dec 8 2019, 07:33 PM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 9 2019, 08:02 AM) Personally I love the 924 and 944s.. Great cars.. I pine for a 924 turbo and 944 turbo some day.. My son has an 88 944.. Drives very nicely Fix the automatic.. They are pretty tough drivelines.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ‘89 952 (944 Turbo rhd) was the best car I’ve ever owned. Regretted selling that car but the upside was funds from sale went into 914 resto-mod. Me too, had a ‘87 924s (OB with 944 running gear). |
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