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Update on New relay testing - Hows your "testing" going, Guess what we're up to now! It's crazy. |
Mikey914 |
Dec 10 2019, 12:56 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
So wanted to separate this from the GB we did so you can see when we update. We are optimistic that we will reach the design cycle target of 200,000 cycles, but will continue to test it to failure.
Everyone that signed up should have theirs by now and there were a few that backed out that I'm PMing those in line tonight. I'm proud to say that we are broke 128,697 before I left this afternoon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Attached image(s) |
pvollma |
Dec 10 2019, 12:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 12-May 13 From: Camp Hill, PA Member No.: 15,862 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Wouldn't a more real-world test be:
1) put it in the freezer overnight, take it out and start testing, then put in in the freezer overnight again, continue testing ... 2) put it in a 100-degree oven for a few hours, then start testing, let it cool down, put it in the oven again, continue testing ... ??? |
ConeDodger |
Dec 10 2019, 01:09 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,553 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Wouldn't a more real-world test be: 1) put it in the freezer overnight, take it out and start testing, then put in in the freezer overnight again, continue testing ... 2) put it in a 100-degree oven for a few hours, then start testing, let it cool down, put it in the oven again, continue testing ... ??? He’s in Oregon and the testing occurs in a warehouse without heat. I’d estimate that 100,000 is well beyond the real-world cycles. |
dcecc1968 |
Dec 10 2019, 01:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 31-December 12 From: Concord, NC Member No.: 15,313 Region Association: South East States |
If my math is correct, for a typical daily driver, the fuel pump relay should cycle 4 times a day (if you go to lunch), once in the morning, once going to lunch, once returning from lunch and once going home. If you work on a 7-day week (most don't), there are 365 days in a year. Based upon the latest cycle number of 128,697 so far, that means the relay will last:
128,697 cycles / (4 cycles per day x 365 days/year) = 88 years That is longer than most of us will live. My conclusion.... great product. Thanks Mark. |
Mikey914 |
Dec 10 2019, 11:48 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
We put some thought into the testing. We run it in about 8hr runs firing every 7 seconds. We are using a live load. The switch triggers the relay to turn off and on a headlight motor. The equivalent of turning your headlights off and on every 7 seconds.
Rob is also correct. The area we are set up testing is currently getting down in the 40 degree range. |
Krieger |
Dec 11 2019, 09:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,694 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
So how many relays have you tested? I would rather see what the results of 100 relays tested with 5000 cycles each. Yes I already bought some.
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Jamie |
Dec 11 2019, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,025 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
Now that I have these nice new 5 relays should I replace all the old original relays with new? I do usually ascribe to the philosophy "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and the originals in my 73 teener are working fine now, no problems noted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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FlacaProductions |
Dec 11 2019, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,550 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Now you're just showin' off, @Mikey914 .....(and good for you - and US!)
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Mikey914 |
Dec 11 2019, 04:14 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
So how many relays have you tested? I would rather see what the results of 100 relays tested with 5000 cycles each. Yes I already bought some. We actually test each relay before we ship them to assure our customers they have a good tested part. So knock off a couple dozen cycles off our count. Sorry we used them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) |
Mikey914 |
Jan 7 2020, 12:19 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Well an update. Our design life cycle was 200,000 cycles. As you can see still going on this.
Thanks again to all that made it possible for us to make these. Based on your testing we can offer a 2 year warranty. We designed these to be a significant improvement over OEM, and they turned out better than we planned! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Jan 7 2020, 06:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Mikey914 |
Feb 6 2020, 07:26 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Still going looks like a 2 yr warranty will be a no brain-er
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Mikey914 |
Feb 19 2020, 01:29 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yes still gong !
Looks like these might out last the cars. Maybe not good business sense to make a part that you will never have to replace, but these will probably outlast all of us! Attached thumbnail(s) |
iankarr |
Feb 19 2020, 01:44 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Ok...time to start the wagering. Over / Under 500K. I'm in for over.
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911GT2 |
Feb 19 2020, 02:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 2-March 11 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 12,773 Region Association: Europe |
So what relay are 'we' testing?
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914bub |
Feb 19 2020, 02:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 16-August 13 From: Modesto CA. Member No.: 16,260 Region Association: None |
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Mikey914 |
Feb 19 2020, 11:33 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
So what relay are 'we' testing? These - https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/search/?q=relay A more than a few of you got a GREAT DEAL on these Attached thumbnail(s) |
76-914 |
Feb 20 2020, 10:20 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,485 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Any vibration testing?
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Mikey914 |
Feb 20 2020, 11:39 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yes
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StarBear |
Feb 23 2020, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,845 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
PS: I presume no difference between the "red" and the "black" other than color (and the $2)?
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