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> Is there a "how to.." for crank measurement, and bearing verification?
malcolm2
post Dec 16 2019, 11:07 PM
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I am gonna make a 2 liter from my 1.8. So I have a refreshed 71mm crank that I have been told has been ground to -0.010.

I measured as best as I can with a digital mic and got about 59.66 on the mains and 49.65 on the rod journals.

Where can I find the STD specs and ranges ? were they 60 and 50, respectively?

Since I know nothing about this crank, how can I verify the 71 mm measurement?
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post Dec 17 2019, 08:51 AM
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How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it matters, just curious if I could measure that.

THe rod journals are smaller, but otherwise it looks just like the 66mm from the 1.8. I thought the rod journals were smaller and offset. seems like 5mm offset would be visible.

Any other way to tell it's a 71mm? Markings, etc...
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post Dec 17 2019, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Dec 17 2019, 09:51 AM) *

How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it matters, just curious if I could measure that.

THe rod journals are smaller, but otherwise it looks just like the 66mm from the 1.8. I thought the rod journals were smaller and offset. seems like 5mm offset would be visible.

Any other way to tell it's a 71mm? Markings, etc...


Stroke of the crank 71mm is measured from the centerline of the main bearings to the centerline of the rod journal. That dimension should be 35.5mm or 1/2 the stroke.

It will be difficult to measure perfectly without putting the crank between centers, doing some set up of height gauges and some math to account for journal radius offset.

A 1.7L/1/8L is an offset of 33mm from crank centerline. A difference of 2.5mm to the 2.0l crank. That 2.5mm is 0.100” and could easily get lost in an eyeball or tape measure type measurement.

Easier way would be to mock up, and then measure the actual stroke of a piston. That should be 71mm.
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post Dec 17 2019, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Dec 17 2019, 03:13 PM) *

QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Dec 17 2019, 09:51 AM) *

How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it matters, just curious if I could measure that.

THe rod journals are smaller, but otherwise it looks just like the 66mm from the 1.8. I thought the rod journals were smaller and offset. seems like 5mm offset would be visible.

Any other way to tell it's a 71mm? Markings, etc...


Stroke of the crank 71mm is measured from the centerline of the main bearings to the centerline of the rod journal. That dimension should be 35.5mm or 1/2 the stroke.

It will be difficult to measure perfectly without putting the crank between centers, doing some set up of height gauges and some math to account for journal radius offset.

A 1.7L/1/8L is an offset of 33mm from crank centerline. A difference of 2.5mm to the 2.0l crank. That 2.5mm is 0.100” and could easily get lost in an eyeball or tape measure type measurement.

Easier way would be to mock up, and then measure the actual stroke of a piston. That should be 71mm.


The T4 crank is a flat-plane crank, just use a vernier caliper and measure from the bottom of one throw to the top of the next throw. You can use a straight edge or just eyeball it. It will even work telling the difference between a 78mm and 80mm but it might be hard to tell between a 78mm vs a 78.8mm crankshaft.

It's not a dead accurate way, but quick and easy to identify if it's a stock 66mm or 71mm crank.
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malcolm2   Is there a "how to.." for crank measurement   Dec 16 2019, 11:07 PM
Superhawk996   @malcolm2 My understanding is that this crank th...   Dec 17 2019, 06:17 AM
malcolm2   YES, It seems that @jtprettyman has passed it on...   Dec 17 2019, 08:46 AM
malcolm2   How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it matte...   Dec 17 2019, 08:51 AM
Superhawk996   How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it matt...   Dec 17 2019, 02:13 PM
Mark Henry   How about the 71mm measurement? Not that it mat...   Dec 17 2019, 11:26 PM
Mark Henry   I only use STD cranks or standard (under) cranks I...   Dec 17 2019, 09:24 AM
malcolm2   I only use STD cranks or standard (under) cranks ...   Dec 17 2019, 09:48 AM
Superhawk996   Also for what it’s worth, I provided this crank ...   Dec 17 2019, 02:34 PM
malcolm2   OK it passed the hammer test. very high pitched t...   Dec 17 2019, 06:30 PM
Superhawk996   With my method of measuring last night, I got a ...   Dec 18 2019, 08:53 AM
malcolm2   With my method of measuring last night, I got a...   Dec 18 2019, 10:03 AM
Superhawk996   Thanks for your input. I certainly hope you don...   Dec 18 2019, 02:58 PM
malcolm2   OK, maybe not the super duper accurate tools but I...   Dec 21 2019, 02:47 PM
Superhawk996   OK, maybe not the super duper accurate tools but ...   Dec 21 2019, 07:36 PM
Mark Henry   Sounds like a lot. If you're right about #4 yo...   Dec 21 2019, 03:24 PM
malcolm2   Your rods should at least have the big ends done....   Jan 20 2020, 08:59 AM
Superhawk996   So question 1: how do you "DO" the rod...   Jan 20 2020, 12:41 PM
malcolm2   Both micrometers were checked prior to the last me...   Dec 23 2019, 10:08 AM
Superhawk996   Both micrometers were checked prior to the last m...   Dec 23 2019, 10:34 AM
malcolm2   3) For hobbyists like myself, Plastigage can ser...   Dec 23 2019, 10:44 AM
malcolm2   UPDATE>>>>> Todd is the Director o...   Jan 14 2020, 08:38 PM
Superhawk996   Rod measurements align a whole lot closer to what ...   Jan 15 2020, 06:00 AM
jtprettyman   @Superhawk996 Yes, these were done with a very n...   Jan 15 2020, 08:58 AM
malcolm2   Rod Balancing, End-to-end. I also wondered how in...   Jan 21 2020, 08:30 AM


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