Slightly OT: what is the last best analog sports car with hydraulic power steering |
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Slightly OT: what is the last best analog sports car with hydraulic power steering |
Tdskip |
Jan 19 2020, 12:37 PM
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Just as a thought exercise – if you had to pick a new – modern sports car that had proper hydraulic, rather than electric, power steering what would it be?
Just walked past about a 7 year old Audi R8, hence the question. I’m sure the last generation Cayman would have be on the short list... |
914_teener |
Jan 26 2020, 10:08 AM
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As far as the Cayman is concerned, the 987.2 had hydrualic...the 981 had steer by wire.....so anything before 2014.
The Cayman had problems...mostly tracked cars.....with overheating with the fluid. As far and the feeling...I prefer the hudraulic rack although I get why they went to an electric one. |
Superhawk996 |
Jan 26 2020, 01:37 PM
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As far as the Cayman is concerned, the 987.2 had hydrualic...the 981 had steer by wire.....so anything before 2014. Just a nuance Cayman isn't steer by wire. It is EPAS. Electric Power Assisted Steering. Steer by wire implies that that there is no mechanical linkage between the steering wheel and the steering actuation. Nissan was 1st to market with a quasi steer by wire system and also had to recall shortly after it was launched. https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a9940...ystem-16276674/ The reason I say quasi steer by wire is that by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards the steering must have a mechanical linkage. In the case of the Nissan, it had a mechanical linkage that could be reengaged if the steer by wire portion of the system failed. The main reason for steer by wire is that it becomes a path toward autonomous vehicles by easily enabling elimination of the steering column altogether. |
914_teener |
Jan 27 2020, 01:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
As far as the Cayman is concerned, the 987.2 had hydrualic...the 981 had steer by wire.....so anything before 2014. Just a nuance Cayman isn't steer by wire. It is EPAS. Electric Power Assisted Steering. Steer by wire implies that that there is no mechanical linkage between the steering wheel and the steering actuation. Nissan was 1st to market with a quasi steer by wire system and also had to recall shortly after it was launched. https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a9940...ystem-16276674/ The reason I say quasi steer by wire is that by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards the steering must have a mechanical linkage. In the case of the Nissan, it had a mechanical linkage that could be reengaged if the steer by wire portion of the system failed. The main reason for steer by wire is that it becomes a path toward autonomous vehicles by easily enabling elimination of the steering column altogether. Ah....yes thanks for the clarification.! Good info. I'd say for the "feel" factor with respect to the EPA....the EPAS version in the 981 feels different in that it feels a little"twitchy" to me. Always a subjective thing. |
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