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| dbledsoe |
 Oct 1 2005, 08:35 PM
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Mutineer  Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687  |
OK!!! We have ignition. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/piratenanner.gif)
After six months of working all my spare time (I work two jobs so spare time is at a premium), I lit off the Buick V6 conversion in my 914 last night (Friday September 30th). I like to think that it is in honor of James Dean since it was on the 50th anniversary of his untimely death. Damn it sounds good. Open headers and no exhaust system on yet. I let it run 30 minutes at 2500 rpm to break in the cam and lifters. No over heating problems, oil pressure very good at 60 PSI that slowly dropped to 40 psi as the engine came up to operating temperature, held at 40 psi throughout. The electric fans kicked in at 180 degrees (my own radiator and fan setup, not the high dollar RH system) and every thing stayed between 180 and 190. It's still up on jack stands in consideration that I have some additional things to do beneath the car but I hope to let it down about mid-week, weather permitting, and take it for a test drive. I'm hoping to get the remainder of the work done before next Saturday so the wife and I can attend the PCA Silver Sage Region Oktoberfest run in Eagle Idaho. I'll do my best to make it, man I sure would love to! A ton of thank yous’ to all who helped me here on 914world.com to get through this conversion, it's my first conversion. And to everyone who answered my multiple 914 questions unrelated to the conversion. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) I’ll post additional pictures as I get the chance. Don |
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| redshift |
Oct 1 2005, 08:47 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) WOOHOO!
Bet THAT was loud! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) M |
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| 914GT |
Oct 1 2005, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,101 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Great news Don! Looking forward to more pictures.
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| dmenche914 |
Oct 1 2005, 11:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
do you have any photos to document the radiator / fan / and water line setups? Most interested to see them.
nice ride! |
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| Gint |
Oct 1 2005, 11:21 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,096 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
More pics!
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| pjhaun |
Oct 2 2005, 12:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 370 Joined: 21-August 03 Member No.: 1,055 Region Association: None |
Don: What carburator are you using? Also what type of air cleaner are you using? From the looks of the pictures you do not have much room to close the engine lid with a carburator and an air cleaner. Thank You!!!!! Phillip J. Haun Oak Harbor, Wa. |
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| MecGen |
Oct 2 2005, 02:37 AM
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8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421 |
Hey
This post shows clearly: Clean work Amazing pics (I noticed this right away) I bet you have an amazing appartment or home ...correct? Your my HERO (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) Later |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 07:57 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Oh yea, it was. But it was a nice loud. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 08:00 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Guy, Thank you for you help on my questions and thanks for posting so much interesting and valuable info on your conversions. They really helped me out, and were inspiration. I've been working all weekend so haven't had time to do any more work or take additional photos. I'll do that tomorrow after work while I still have good light and post them on Tuesday. Don |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 08:06 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Dmenche, Thank you for the compliment. I'll take some detailed photos of the (mostly) completed radiator/fan setup tomorrow after work and post them on Tuesday. Work keeps interfering with my hobbies. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) Don |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 08:07 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Should be up on Tuesday. Work is getting in my way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 08:28 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Phillip, Currently I have a Holley 9776 450 CFM four barrel on the 3.8L Buick. I also have a Holley 8007 390 CFM with vacuum secondaries to try. The 9776 is the cheapest Holley four barrel I could find so I bought that due to deck lid clearance problems knowing I would likely have to modify the air intake (choke) housing to get the clearance I need. I cut the choke housing down and it clears the deck lid but not much room for any type of air cleaner. I bought a K&N plenum with two snorkels coming off that I can run tubes from to separate individual air cleaners, and it's about as low a profile as I could fine, but not low enough. I'll have to cut a hole in the deck lid for clearance. It won't protrude above the deck lid by more than 1/4" but it does require cutting a hole. All of that is because of the Edlebrock Performer dual plane intake manifold. It is tall. I latter bought a Weiand X-cellerator single plane intake and it is about 3/4" to 1" shorter and would eliminate the need to modify the deck lid. But that will go on the 4.1L Buick V6 I am building to go into my white 76 914. I also have the original Buick 4.1L aluminum intake that takes a Rochester Q-Jet carb. It has a very low profile and would accept just about any air cleaner and have plenty of room to clear the deck lid with no modifications. Don |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 08:44 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
MecGen, Thank you for the wonderful compliments! Unfortunately I have to disappoint you on the house. It's clean, thanks to my wife, but my garage is most often a mess. I work two jobs. My day job is for the Idaho Department of Environmental Quality and my second job is as the Range Manager on a 60-acre public shooting range outside of Boise, Idaho. I also live in two houses, well sort of. We have a standard 3-bedroom ranch house in town that is mostly lived in by my son. On the range we live in a singlewide mobile home. Kind of odd I suppose but it's quiet (at night) out here and beautiful in the winter time. My other hobby is long range target rifle shooting (Palma/fullbore) at 800, 900, & 1000 yards, which is how I ended up living on and running a shooting range. I had the good fortune to be a firing team member of a USA Goodwill Team to Canada in 1999 and 2000 shooting against the Brits and your fellow Canadians in Chiliwack, BC. Beautiful country!!! I like to make my projects as clean as possible but this conversion will be my daily driver so it isn't quite as nice as the pictures might lead you to believe. I also own a white 76 914 that I plan to do a tub up rebuild on since the body is a lot nicer than my red 75. That one will get a 4.1L Buick V6. Don |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:36 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Radiator and fans installed, although I still have a bit of work to do on top and side shrouds.
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:37 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:37 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:40 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
a real another
Still some clean up work to do on the fan wiring, a job for next weekend... along with a few other things. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:42 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
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| jimkelly |
Oct 4 2005, 09:45 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I wonder what percentage of air is gonna be able to get over the top of the radiator? May not be substantial enough to be a problem ??
Jim |
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 4 2005, 09:49 AM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Jim, According to others, it appears a significant amount will go around (path of least resistance). Probably not a problem in the fall/winter but others have reported problems in summer without the shrouding. Don |
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