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post Mar 9 2020, 12:23 PM
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Hey guys,

I figured I would make a build here. I am very active on the facebook group and have received some great feedback and help from the guys over there. I will try and remeber to update this as I complete some work.

I'm in my late 20's and have wanted a 914 for a long while now. I've been through 11 or 12 VW's water and aircooled - Rabbits, Caddys, Beetle, etc... so it's natural progression I suppose.

I found this car in Louisville and towed it home last summer. A friend looked at it for me. Gave me the OK, said there was minor rust, but a solid project. I paid for the car, and drove out that weekend. Upon arrival I found there to be a pretty severe case of rust...

I stored the car the rest of the year - bit the bullet and decided to go to town on the structural repairs.
It is the color and the car I want. I work in fabrication by trade, so I am not too scared to take on this project.

I will not be driving the car until I feel it’s solid.
I am cutting some corners - depending on how you look at it. This is a budget build. But I will be using as many replacement parts (AA and RD) as I can. Without removing too much of the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)

Car:
12/70 vin. Added to database.
Off the road since 1998.
1.7 gunky motor.
Toasty interior.
70k miles shown, iirc. So probably 170k
Came with late style black adjustable seats.


Plan:
Fix structural rust so I can drive the car ASAP
I’d like to keep original paint (too late)
Fix as much rust as I can. (Hell hole, shelf, passenger long, floors)
Drop in replacement motor
Run new brake and fuel lines
5lug swap.
2.0 down the road?


This will be a cars and coffee cruiser, not a concour restoration (sorry!)

I just want to drive MY 914!

The car as I found it:
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Quick Buff:

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post Mar 9 2020, 12:37 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Looking forward to seeing the progress on your project.
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post Mar 9 2020, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(jaredmcginness @ Mar 9 2020, 02:23 PM) *

Hey guys,

I figured i would make a build here. I am very active on the facebook group and have received some great feedback and help from the guys over there. I will try and remeber to update this as I complete some work.

I'm in my late 20's and have wanted a 914 for a long while now. I've been through 11 or 12 VW's water and aircooled Rabbits, Caddys, Beetle, etc... so it's natural progression I suppose.

I found this car in Louisville and towed it home last summer. A friend looked at it for me. Gave me the OK, said there was minor rust, but a solid project. I paid for the car, and drove out that weekend. Upon arrival I found there to be a pretty severe case of rust...

I stored the car the rest of the year - bit the bullet and decided to go to down. It is the color and the car I want. I work in fabrication by trade, so I am not too scared to take on this project.

The car as I found it:



Pretty car. Now, let's see the ugly pictures! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 9 2020, 12:50 PM
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As requested, as for the ugly...

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post Mar 9 2020, 12:53 PM
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Welcome to the World!!!

As you know, there's a wealth of information here. That's a rusty car but many have started with worse. You've got a leg up, being able to fab. Can't wait to see progress pics!
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post Mar 9 2020, 12:56 PM
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My dad and I picked up a running 1.7 for next to nothing. Will get me on the road faster..
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Pulled the old motor:
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Got a steal on some new floors - $200 for the pair original parts:
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More metal:
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Fabbed up a quick fix to the trunk pull (it wasn't attached and rusted through)
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post Mar 9 2020, 01:20 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Great color and a good project.

Before you put that motor in you may want to check all of the suspension mounting points and the hell hole (area below the factor battery location). Repairs are easier to handle with no engine/transaxle installed.

Of course you may as well replace the fuel lines in the tunnel if they are still plastic and upgrade to the stainless steel from Tangerine Racing or others. Pull the fuel tank and have that boiled out and perhaps coated and replace the remaining rubber fuel lines. Clean all of the body grounds on the car. Then rebuild the brakes calipers, replace the flexible lines and flush the entire system. That should keep you bust for a bit.

These cars are a blast to drive but we always want to make sure the car itself is safe to dive as they are now 50 years old.

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post Mar 9 2020, 01:24 PM
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Sandblasted the J pipe:

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Made some seatbelt bungs on the lathe at work:
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Got the inner long in good order. I used silver POR15 in the inner wheel house:

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post Mar 9 2020, 01:40 PM
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Looks like a lot of work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Glad you have some some help.
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Welcome! Good start, will be watching with interest.
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post Mar 9 2020, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Mar 9 2020, 03:20 PM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Great color and a good project.

Before you put that motor in you may want to check all of the suspension mounting points and the hell hole (area below the factor battery location). Repairs are easier to handle with no engine/transaxle installed.

Of course you may as well replace the fuel lines in the tunnel if they are still plastic and upgrade to the stainless steel from Tangerine Racing or others. Pull the fuel tank and have that boiled out and perhaps coated and replace the remaining rubber fuel lines. Clean all of the body grounds on the car. Then rebuild the brakes calipers, replace the flexible lines and flush the entire system. That should keep you bust for a bit.

These cars are a blast to drive but we always want to make sure the car itself is safe to dive as they are now 50 years old.

Good luck, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Thanks for the good tips. I would say I am well versed in the lingo and parts of these cars - I’ve been lurking you guys for 5+ years. I will be running all new fuel lines, fixing the hell hole, 5 lug swap (new brakes) etc.
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Rolling Rock and Irish green. Good Choice!
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post Mar 11 2020, 06:53 AM
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Hey guys,

Another little update. Trying to tackle the front section of the long, before the door. Tricky little spot. Soft area in the wheel well. I ground this away to reveal a nice 3" hole.

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Making a template with a Coors Banquet box. Good for more than a cool buzz.

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Cut and bent

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Welded and smoothed with a shot of primer.
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Reasonable fit, will need some tweaking and 20 more minutes of grinding welds.
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Looking down the long. I think I can do a little better than that, so I will make some adjustments to get it a little closer along these red sketches...
I wish I had the AMADA brakes I use at work to bend these parts.
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Quickie test fit of the outer clamshell. I wanted to check how far off I am with the lower part of my fabbed long... Close! but more tweaking.

This is a motivating sight!

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Recreating this rear piece. I used my rusty cut out as a template.
This will be dual layer 16g nice and beefy.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1583932560.2.jpg)

I will not be recreating the jack pyramid area. I have purchased Brad's 914LTD stiffening kit - which deletes the factory pyramid. (not my photo, but this kit:)

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I know it might be unnecessary for - not a racecar - but with the rust this car has... it cant hurt to stiffen the car up and keep it solid.

I am blind and missed a chunk on the bottom. Its ok to make things twice sometimes to get it right.

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Just a nice photo before I pulled the car in:

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Great skills and work levels
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Here's a list of some of the other things I have accomplished and compiled over the last few months.

Installed ignition switch (early solder in style) and Ign key.

Got some new interior bits from a nice guy about an hour away for a great price:
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Also a new left tail light, and a much needed rear bumper I found on craigslist in PA for $100:

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My factory bumper was taco'd and dimpled:

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The 914 also had what i would call the WORST dash I have ever seen. Looked like it sat on a grille at a BBQ joint for half a year - found a new one on the forums here for $200:

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Shot of my work space. Not much but fits a 914.

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post Mar 13 2020, 05:28 AM
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Not related to fixing the car... but part of the bigger picture.
Sometimes you need to buy yourself somethin nice!

Picked up a set of 14" Fuchs for a great deal, due to the ugly finish. Two '69 dates and two '70 dates. Lets see if I can clean em up.

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Sprayed some Jascos. 15 minutes of sitting.

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Damn!

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I would say that the spray bomb job preserved this original finish. Good drivers quality. Really feel like I lucked out here. I'll do the other 3 this evening.... then back to welding!

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Jared, you have mad skills. My hat is off to you and I wish I had the eye you have when I was your age. Heck, I'd like to have that eye right now. Good work and keep it up.
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post Mar 13 2020, 06:07 AM
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Jared, you have mad skills. My hat is off to you and I wish I had the eye you have when I was your age. Heck, I'd like to have that eye right now. Good work and keep it up.



Thanks much!! I wouldn't say 'mad skills.' Just not afraid to try and make mistakes... There's always beer in the fridge, if something goes wrong.

I grew up in NoVa. Where abouts are you?
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Wow... nice job so far. Keep it up!!!
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