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> Irish Green '71 "Resto", Update: the 914 has been sold!
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post May 30 2020, 09:23 PM
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Thanks Brent. I should have just done that.... and I was at HB today buying a bigger hammer!
Need to take a step back sometimes and think about working smarter (not harder.)

Bearing kit or not, that hub was on there ridiculously tight. I borrowed a snap on slide hammer, fixed an old rotor for mega torque - still took an hour 30, and I managed to pull the car 2 feet across the garage. I guess since the gym is closed... can’t complain about a work out.
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post May 31 2020, 09:30 AM
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Mark saves the day, again.

Torqued the rear axle ALL the way to spec in the Haynes and the wheel spins free and smooth.

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I'll tone my cursing down next time and refer to the manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

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post May 31 2020, 10:28 AM
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More great progress! I think you will need to split the case on that engine. The rusty connecting rod looks bad...good luck.
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QUOTE(jaredmcginness @ May 31 2020, 08:30 AM) *

Mark saves the day, again.

Torqued the rear axle ALL the way to spec in the Haynes and the wheel spins free and smooth.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1590939058.1.jpg)

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I'll tone my cursing down next time and refer to the manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

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post May 31 2020, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(jaredmcginness @ May 31 2020, 09:30 AM) *

I'll tone my cursing down next time and refer to the manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

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post Jun 3 2020, 06:05 AM
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Hey guys,

Couple photos from last night. I split the case, exciting.

(To recap, here was my original plan.)
-Tear down and inspect motor
- Collect parts for rebuild as 1911cc, carbed.
- Keep 66mm crank if its usable
- Replace cam if not usable with mild street
- Replace lifters (Maybe HD springs, not sure if needed)
- 96MM jugs and pistons
- Head rebuilt/bored (already at shop)
- New bearings and seals in case

With that being said, case was split for inspection last night. Lots of wear!

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Cam looks really worn. Hard U shaped divot worn into every lobe. 5-10 of the gear teeth were... "pitted" and broken. something small probably stuck in there.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1591185925.2.jpg)

Crank, eh not sure. I need to have this inspected properly.

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Screen is disgusting. Legitimately as thick as butter. There was some similar sludge on the bottom of the case, with fresh oil sitting on top. When I lifted the case to drain the last bits in there, some water dripped out too. Which explains the condensation and rust on the connecting rods, etc.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1591186300.1.jpg)

So I'll definitely need a replacement not rusty connecting rod set, certainly a cam (mild street options?), and a nice clean and bead blast of this case.

The photo you gotta take when you get your first aircooled case split. For the scrapbook:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1591185925.4.jpg)

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post Jun 3 2020, 06:29 AM
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Oh that is some nastiness on that screen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

Nice job, the oil smudge on your nose is a nice touch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Might want to have your machine shop check the case, too. They can check to make sure the crank saddles are aligned (bore alignment) and that the cylinder registers are level (IIRC within .002 of each other) on each side.

Definitely disassemble, clean and inspect that oil pump (or replace). There are threads here somewhere about how the type 4 oil pump fails and what to look for.

Also, the Type 4 store sells a sealant kit that's pretty handy: https://lnengineering.com/type-4-store/type...ealant-kit.html

They also had/have a gasket and seal kit for rebuild but I can't seem to find it just now. Their website is a bit jacked up right now.

Lots of places sell connecting rods, so hopefully you can find something rebuilt / reasonable. The H-beam are probably overkill on your budget. It starts to add up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 3 2020, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jun 3 2020, 08:29 AM) *

Oh that is some nastiness on that screen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

Nice job, the oil smudge on your nose is a nice touch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Might want to have your machine shop check the case, too.

Definitely disassemble, clean and inspect that oil pump (or replace). There are threads here somewhere about how the type 4 oil pump fails and what to look for.



Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

I contacted the shop that currently has my heads and said I'd like to drop my case off for inspection, thrust cut, bearing replacement (oversized if needed), etc.
I have been reading my aircooled rebuild books, but I may actually have him do the bottom end assembly.... do it right or do it twice, right?

I'll add oil pump to the list. Victor Reinz full seal set is on my list too, Ill have to look up the sealants.... Thanks!
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post Jun 3 2020, 06:46 AM
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Also, I have some 1.7 connecting rods that came out of my running engine from a couple of years ago. I'd recommend replacing the bearings, but there yours if they can help with the rebuild cost.
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post Jun 3 2020, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(jaredmcginness @ Jun 3 2020, 08:43 AM) *

QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jun 3 2020, 08:29 AM) *

Oh that is some nastiness on that screen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

Nice job, the oil smudge on your nose is a nice touch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Might want to have your machine shop check the case, too.

Definitely disassemble, clean and inspect that oil pump (or replace). There are threads here somewhere about how the type 4 oil pump fails and what to look for.



Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

I contacted the shop that currently has my heads and said I'd like to drop my case off for inspection, thrust cut, bearing replacement (oversized if needed), etc.
I have been reading my aircooled rebuild books, but I may actually have him do the bottom end assembly.... do it right or do it twice, right?

I'll add oil pump to the list. Victor Reinz full seal set is on my list too, Ill have to look up the sealants.... Thanks!

I have an extra case if you need it.
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post Jun 3 2020, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jun 3 2020, 08:46 AM) *

Also, I have some 1.7 connecting rods that came out of my running engine from a couple of years ago. I'd recommend replacing the bearings, but there yours if they can help with the rebuild cost.

I’d take those, I was just looking on eBay for stock replacements.

@mepstein I’ll let you know after case inspection. I feel this is fine and just needs a refresh. Though, eyes don’t read down to the thousandth, haha.
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post Jun 3 2020, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(jaredmcginness @ Jun 3 2020, 09:07 AM) *

QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jun 3 2020, 08:46 AM) *

Also, I have some 1.7 connecting rods that came out of my running engine from a couple of years ago. I'd recommend replacing the bearings, but there yours if they can help with the rebuild cost.

I’d take those, I was just looking on eBay for stock replacements.

@mepstein I’ll let you know after case inspection. I feel this is fine and just needs a refresh. Though, eyes don’t read down to the thousandth, haha.

They are yours. Just need to find a time/place to hook up.

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post Jun 12 2020, 05:55 PM
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Hey guys,

(BTW Rob, I'd love those rods, need to meet up with you soon)

Not a lot to update... stuff in waiting, ordering parts, etc.
Here's a few pics to browse through during your Saturday pancakes.

Updated my white board, since it was mostly complete - except the part about driving my car - and there still much left to do.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1592006129.1.jpg)

Got a clean pair of weber copies from Monte @mjrrti . Great guy and excellent packaging (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) These should work well for me for now.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1592006129.2.jpg)

Met up with my buddy @mepstein today and he set me up with an original early 4 ignition AND he re-keyed my door and trunk cylinders to match, massive thank you.
(also acquired the parts to fix my weird ball joint issue, will update on that later.)

I am glad to have the original part and get rid of the chincy ebay Brazil ignition.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1592006129.3.jpg)


Side question - is this enough clutch meat? Or should I just buy a Sachs kit? My nice calipers are at work.... haha, that's 3/16"

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@valcoOscar sent me some touch up paint, I think it will be a really solid match, once I buff my car properly.
This will be great for my wart deletes. No more primer! (and no more rustoleum hunter green (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1592006130.5.jpg)

Anything else..... ? Heads should be complete and ready for pick up on Monday or so, I will drop the case off for machine work/check then. Getting this motor under way.

I have a lot of 2 week on 2 week of work trips to the desert this summer that will slow progress down. But gotta stay with it when I can!

Sometimes I just sit there. Cant wait to drive it....

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1592006130.6.jpg)

Massive thanks to everyone here and your kindness with parts, paint, advice, whatever. This is the most solid group of guys...
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Glad you got the "drink beer" task accomplished (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Remember, that's a recurring task.

I'm pretty flexible on meeting up with those rods, and if we can't find a convenient place/time I can always mail them.

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post Jul 3 2020, 05:36 PM
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Hey guys!

Back from a long 14 day work trip. Got a little bit done one the car.

For starters I finished the final 5 lug corner swap. I decided to do the bearings at a shop this time and not deal with slide hammers, false promises of freezing bearings and torching the receiver for an easy slide... None of that works! So press it was. No effort. 15 minutes.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819396.1.jpg)

When I pulled the swing arm, I noticed this "5" painted on. I don't know what its for, but in some cases I like to keep original stuff the car came with around (except rust!)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819566.1.jpg)

Sanded and painted the swing arm. Taped off the 5. I like it.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819397.3.jpg)


Busted my ignition switch while removing. Replaced that, installed my new key cylinder, and replaced the bulbs in the gauge cluster. Replaced door tumblers that Mepstein re-keyed for me.

Happy now I have a key that works for every door AND the ignition. For the first time in my ownership of this car, I turned the key over and lights on cluster the illuminated.
Small victories right?

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819398.4.jpg)



Part 2: Heads

Pulled the heads off this motor. Totally gnarly! Look at that cylinder leakage.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819398.5.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819398.6.jpg)

Just picked them up today. Fresh rebuild, stock valve size. Everything was (and needed) replaced. Bored out for dual HD springs and and flycut to 105mm for my 1911cc build.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1593819398.7.jpg)

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Very happy with these. Worth every penny. Cannot DIY it all!


I have already acquired:
Cam
Pistons + Cyl
Seal Kit
Lifters
Rebuilt heads and now dropped my case and crank off to get checked and assembled.

Good progress made.

Happy 4th to everyone.
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post Jul 18 2020, 02:52 PM
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Hi all,

Havn't made an update in a while. Traveling for work sucks! Lots of little things have happened.

Went to cars and coffee today and lusted... how I wish I could afford a longhood.... Maybe I'll find the rust bucket 912 one day and give it the same treatment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1595105559.1.jpg)

Engine case is at the builder and on the stand. Should have some nice updates this week.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1595105559.2.jpg)

I decided on 924 seatbelts.
Direct fit (for the most part). I like them, keep it in the same marquee.
I did not want to cut my early firewall for late seatbelts, and decided against the early style belts. This was a nice, inexpensive solution.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1595105560.3.jpg)




I decided to go to town on the tail section. Thanks to some advice from a few of you guys. I was going to put this off because I WANT TO DRIVE IT. But every time I look at it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

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130ish spot welds to drill.

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A few patches in the trunk need made, but overall its in nice shape. Just needs a hose down.

If anything, maybe good for some garage wall art.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1595105560.7.jpg)

A solid and sweaty 5 hours of my Saturday. New tail arrives Tuesday.
I'll have to finagle something with that tow hook area.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1595105560.8.jpg)

Have a great weekend!
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Excellent!

Which Cars and Coffee did you go to? Huntsville?
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Excellent!

Which Cars and Coffee did you go to? Huntsville?

Hunt Valley Horsepower. Over in Cockeysville. So probably yes. It’s unofficially going right now.
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Good choice to replace that rear panel.

When you fit the new one, watch the spread between the fenders. The distance from left to right fender should be constant.
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