Irish Green '71 "Resto", Update: the 914 has been sold! Options

[jaredmcginness]

Weekend Update:

Spent about 12 hours outside Friday to Sunday, finished up the passenger long. Frustrating few days. But good progress none the less.


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Test fitting my passenger floor... Couple issues. I realized the rear, inner firewall is not flat across the flange, it has a 7/8" step down to the floor spot welds. Had to cut and adjust that.
The woes of making your own parts, with nothing to compare it to (rusted away!) Should have fit the floor first!

Another issue I am working out is the connection of the floor with the horizontal spot welds near the front fender. There's not a lot of meat left, so I will need to make a new strip (on the inner fender)

Here's the fit. Definitely a nice sight, we've come a long way.

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Patched the lower front, inner fender. This is only really welded along the top, in case I need to make adjustments to accommodate the floor flange.

Which you can kind of see in this photo:

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Gotta keep going! Might take a night off so I don't get burned out.

As another member said, gotta keep fighting the good fight.

[bkrantz]

Congrats on that milestone. I had my door on for a few days last week and it felt like progress.

[jaredmcginness]

More prep and a few questions!

Installing my stainless fuel lines. A breeze with the floor off! I feel bad for anyone that's done it otherwise.

Questions:

-Is this an acceptable lay out? Would you raise them over the wiring harness?

-2 cables ties to keep them tight together, I dont want them flopping around, other wise fine to just chill there?

-the larger 9mm one stays on the passenger side, and comes out the lower passenger side slot in the engine bay?
Looks right for my gas tank outlets.

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Another question:

-What is this empty mount on top of my control arm?

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Where I've spent most of my time the last 6 days, on my back!

Long looks nice, hit it with some weld thru right after this.

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Drilling the spot weld holes. 70 something holes in the pan and 40
in the fire wall/ tunnel. I hit some zinc primer on the inside of the floor tunnel.
Didn't want to leave it raw.

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Basically the final fit, I'll start spot welding tonight.

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My checklist has not gotten much bigger these days.

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I have a pretty good idea of what needs accomplished - though,
I have left a few blank spots for any surprises....might, need more than 2.

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As always, many thanks for reading and the support!

[BeatNavy]

Nice Jared. I like how you have the body dimension sheet taped up to your whiteboard. Good reference and reminder!

SS fuel lines: I think your layout is fine. Probably better under the wiring harness, as it's more likely you'll need access to the wiring harness than the fuel lines after you seal everything back up. Someone with better memory can comment on orientation of the lines in terms of which side.

The cable tie is nice touch, but mine have never flopped around without it. Actually installing them, even with floor and engine in, wasn't nearly as hard as it might seem, although having a helper/spotter (my son, in my case) is definitely helpful. Not in my "Top 25 PITA" tasks on my teener.

That empty bracket on your control arm is a mount for the optional sway bar. I can't recall exactly, but I don't think early cars came with the front sway bar. It's a great addition for handling, though.

[jaredmcginness]

Not in my "Top 25 PITA" tasks on my teener.

That empty bracket on your control arm is a mount for the optional sway bar.

I hate to know what makes the top 25 then! But.. ehh, I think I have a few ideas.

Great thanks, I didn't think 1.7's came with mounts for a sway bar.

[jaredmcginness]

Hey guys,

Finished up the passenger floor today.


Added the Jack triangle, fits with a couple swings of my Universal Adjustment Tool.

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She's sturdy. (I wont be jumping though. No cross bar yet)

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Working on this front section patch. Maybe a bit more smoothing... and I need to finagle the triangle that goes up at the end.

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I ordered the crossmember and seat mounts from Stoddard.


So next up on the list for this area.

-Finish up driver side floor flanges and clean everything up.
-Install D.S. floor.
-Install handbrake and accessories.
-Crossmember and Seat mounts.
-Seam seal everything.
-Paint the floor with something.
-Undercoat the bottom.
-Dyna Mat or similar.
-Install interior!

[tygaboy]

Us old guys call what you're doing "kicking ass and taking names".

Great progress. At this rate, you'll have it back on the road in no time.
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[Cairo94507]

Chris- Are you sure you were never a LEO? That was a very common expression back in the day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[jaredmcginness]

Hey Ladies,

Something to look at on your lunch breaks (or just blatantly at work - if you are like me)

Got some goodies in from Stoddard! Last of what I need for the floor.

Cross member halves
4x seat weld brackets
Throttle Cable

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And compared to what I had in there... Yikes.

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So the throttle cable was left connected when I pulled the motor. Amateur move Jared... So, I needed a new one.

This is 10,000 times easier with the floor still not completely sealed. Easy access.

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Arrived at the right time too, finished up the prep for the floor mounting points.

Drilled some spot welds for the drivers side.

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Started tacking this bad mother in.

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Ran out of argon after about 15 of 120 or so spots. Light at the end of the tunnel.
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Until next time,
Jared

[bbrock]

And compared to what I had in there... Yikes.

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Okay, now I see why you cut those cross member out. That was puzzling me but I figured all would be revealed.

Ran out of argon after about 15 of 120 or so spots. Light at the end of the tunnel.
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Until next time,
Jared

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[jaredmcginness]

Okay, now I see why you cut those cross member out. That was puzzling me but I figured all would be revealed.

I didn't even have to cut it! Bent it straight up, and it pulled out clean! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

[JOEPROPER]

Go get the argon tank filled so we can continue to watch the progress. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
This is coming along very nicely. Great work!

[Baker17]

Got a 1973 1.7 L by the side of the house just waiting to be worked on. I find your build inspiring and I wish I will be half as good as you are when I get to it. My 914 is typical: shot rear floors and bottom firewall, rust coming out from under the paint on doors, hood and rockers and to add an additionnal degree of difficulty, it was lightly rear ended on the drivers side. And this is what I see... And to think that this is just the tip of the iceberg as I've learned from reading many build threads that there is way more under than what you can see. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the engine has a MAJOR exhaust leak and that I found out that there were many exhaust manifold studs either missing or just plain holding by some miracle ( I m sure they are pulled from the head, but let me dream a little, please!!!) I know, you must be asking yourself why I even bothered; well, this is what I call a bucket list affair and no one but myself will stop me from getting it back on the road. I love bringing stuff back from the depths, it is so rewarding. I just hope I will have the "stamina" to get it finished.

Anyways, very good work on your 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

[bbrock]

I know, you must be asking yourself why I even bothered; well, this is what I call a bucket list affair and no one but myself will stop me from getting it back on the road. I love bringing stuff back from the depths, it is so rewarding. I just hope I will have the "stamina" to get it finished.

Anyways, very good work on your 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

DO IT! Don't let the naysayers talk you out of it. If you have the desire, I've found restoring the old rust bucket the most rewarding of MANY large projects I've tackled. Oh, and it is oh so sweet to see the jaws drop on those people who mocked and ridiculed the old basket case when they first see the swan that emerges.

[jaredmcginness]

Got a 1973 1.7 L by the side of the house just waiting to be worked on. I find your build inspiring and I wish I will be half as good as you are when I get to it. My 914 is typical: shot rear floors and bottom firewall, rust coming out from under

And to think that this is just the tip of the iceberg as I've learned from reading many build threads that there is way more under than what you can see.

I know, you must be asking yourself why I even bothered; well, this is what I call a bucket list affair and no one but myself will stop me from getting it back on the road.

I just hope I will have the "stamina" to get it finished.

Anyways, very good work on your 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

I think a lot of us have been in this boat! These cars all seem the same. My car sat around for 7 months, while I stared at it every day. My main motivation early on was not wanting to be the guy that says "i'll get to it".

Honestly, @baker17 the last 6 or 7 weeks have flown by. Its been a pretty straight forward project, cut the brown out, replace it with shiny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

Metal is easy. If you make a mistake you can always cut it out, drink a beer and start over. We'd love to see photos of your car. We can give you plenty of motivation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

I appreciate the comment, truth is: I look up to so many other guy's threads, here on the World (and reference them when I come across a new task) I just try to emulate them.

Nothing to it, but to do it! Right?!

[jaredmcginness]

95% finished the floor up.

All the spot welds are done, just need to butt weld the front seam, prime, seam seal and under coat. This weekend.

Never thought I'd have a 914 with floors.

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ALMOST done laying on my damn back!

Reused the drivers Jack triangle. Its rugged, but sturdy, did not get a pic yet, but you can see I have it welded up in this photo.

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Holds up my 160lb butt - before the support is welded up... So I would say we are good.

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A far cry from this:

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Next on the list:
-Reattach hand brake, and build an E-brake cable guide.
-Butt weld floor near pedal
-Weld in seat mounts
-Seal floor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif)


Feeling pretty good.


Edit: Dang 50 posts! Lost my "914 Newbie" status

[BeatNavy]

Man, all that new steel looks GOOD! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Keep rocking, newbie, Jared!

[DRPHIL914]

95% finished the floor up.

All the spot welds are done, just need to butt weld the front seam, prime, seam seal and under coat. This weekend.

Never thought I'd have a 914 with floors.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1587124872.1.jpg)

ALMOST done laying on my damn back!

Reused the drivers Jack triangle. Its rugged, but sturdy, did not get a pic yet, but you can see I have it welded up in this photo.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1587124873.2.jpg)

Holds up my 160lb butt - before the support is welded up... So I would say we are good.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1587124873.3.jpg)

A far cry from this:

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Next on the list:
-Reattach hand brake, and build an E-brake cable guide.
-Butt weld floor near pedal
-Weld in seat mounts
-Seal floor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif)


Feeling pretty good.


Edit: Dang 50 posts! Lost my "914 Newbie" status

looks good on the floor way to go!! BUT— looking at those cross braces i think you need to flip them around, and switch them side to side , the drivers side one will have the E-Brake switch hole and it looks like you have them swapped, if you are standing on driver side , then i see the drivers side support is currently mocked up on wrong side.... hope you have not tacked those down like that yet!

[bbrock]

looks good on the floor way to go!! BUT— looking at those cross braces i think you need to flip them around, and switch them side to side , the drivers side one will have the E-Brake switch hole and it looks like you have them swapped, if you are standing on driver side , then i see the drivers side support is currently mocked up on wrong side.... hope you have not tacked those down like that yet!

Good catch!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

And great work there "member" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[jaredmcginness]

looks good on the floor way to go!! BUT— looking at those cross braces i think you need to flip them around, and switch them side to side , the drivers side one will have the E-Brake switch hole and it looks like you have them swapped, if you are standing on driver side , then i see the drivers side support is currently mocked up on wrong side.... hope you have not tacked those down like that yet!

Awesome catch, thanks for the PM and response. I will adjust. Just tossed in for the photo! Not tacked in yet.... I might have missed it, due to no reference. (it was all rusted away!)

Thanks all! More updates to come this weekend.